MSaxatilus

Mag capacity.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys. Actually for simplisity sake, the actual person aquiring is a friend of mine. So no, unfortunately, I'm not getting anything good. But when I asked what she had, he called her up and told her to read what it says on the side of the guns. She said, and I quote: "One says Browning Auto-Lite, the other says Winchester 2.... 1...... 21 I think?" I should get a finders fee if you ask me. Lets hope they are in good shape. MSax

OK. I'm going to try to keep this as simple as possible. A woman's husband dies 5 years ago and she legally inherits several rifles and a few shotguns... no handguns. Now several years later, she has offered the guns to me. I have a valid NJ FPID card but she does not. In order to legally transfer ownership to me, does the widow also need a valid NJ FPID card or just me as the buyer? The STATE OF NEW JERSEY's CERTIFICATE OF ELIGIBILITY form that is required for each transfer of a Shotgun, Rifle, including black powder or BB Rifle has a line that asks for the seller's NJ FPID card number. So does she need a FPID card or not? I think not? MSax

Yeah, but in NJ the spoon is probably illegal. Or you can't have a knife with at spoon and a pistol grip or it makes it an assault knife. Idiots. That is a good point. Hmmmm.... very confusing. MSax

Well, looking at the State's statues, a switchblade is defined as: Moving on to Section 2C:39-3: Based upon that, I would definitely consider a switchblade a "prohibited weapon/device". Furthermore looking at the definition of a switchblade I'm not certain I would want to face the judge and have to difference between a lever assisted device and that of a switchblade. Look illegal to me. MSax

I know this is a bit off topic, so mods, if I'm out of line please delete. Anyway, I just wanted to know if a lever-assisted pocket knife is legal in New Jersey. I know that a spring activated/spring assisted knife is ILLEGAL, but how about a lever assisted? A lever assisted knife is one that has a small potrusion on the back of the handle, which when pressed will fling the blade open much quicker than rolling it out by hand or a single thumb. I may have the actual term incorrect, but it is definitely an "assisted" knife. Just curious. Thanks, MSax

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Unless your a NJ Firearms attorney, and are 100% familiar with NJ gun laws, I don't know how you can't buy this book. MSax

I think you guys are missing the answer to your questions. It has already been posted earlier.....

Your allowed to buy a collapsible stock, and own it... but if you put it on an AR then the AR will have 2 of the magic evil parts (collapsable stock and pistol grip) that would then classify it as an assault weapon. If you have and AR and the collapsible stock in your house at the same time then you are risking "Constructive Possession" Considering NJ deals with many of these things with JAIL time, I would not take any chances. But hey that's just my opinion. MSax

That seems pretty clear in my book......unfortunately.

Wouldn't having a pin in there be considered "constructive possession"? I mean it would take little more than a punch pin and the back of a screwdriver to drive a pin out, allowing you to "construct" an evil assault weapon. PK90, my frustration in no way aimed at you. But....Oh forget it!!! I give up. I've never been able to confirm one way or the other if/how you can pin a collapsable stock from anyone with any sense of confidence. Some say you can use a roll pin, some say the manufacturer needs to do it, others have thier own interpretation. My solution.....I'm just goint to slap on an ACE Skeleton stock and avoid any questions what so ever. Its just not worth going to jail over IMHO. The gun laws in this State are simply idiotic and purposely confusing. What ever happened to the statement that ".....the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."!??!?! I definitely feel infringed, damn it! MSax

How do you guys "pin" a collapsable stock? Is it as easy as drilling a hole and using a SS roll pin? Any close up pics? Thank for the help. MSax

This is my biggest concern too. By having a provision in there to "renew/reapply" every five, leaves the powers-to-be with the ability to increase restrictions and governance over the approval process. This could eventually allow an avenue to limit our rights in the future. Right now our existing PFID does not have that limitation because it is for life. On the flip side, I think it is completely unfair and burdensome on law abiding citizens to make us go through this ludicrious permitting process that we have in place now. Look at some of the other threads about that issue. Some of us are waiting 6, 8, 10 months for a permit?!?!? That is infuriating if not a blatant infringment of our rights. Seriously good point! When's the last time the State Police or legislature of this State did anything to benefit gun owners? How can we not be suspicious of their intentions? I'd like to know more details before I render a final decision. MSax

I have both a DW Pointman 7 and a Les Baer Concept VII. Can't go wrong with either pistol. They are both quality items and built like tanks. Customer service on both companies is top notch as well. MSax

When you press the trigger, only use the tip of your finger and slowly press utill the gun goes off and surprises you. If you place your trigger finger to far into the trigger well (trigger at first knuckle below nail) you WILL have a tendency to shoot low and left. If you slap the trigger instead of pressing, you will shoot low and left (if you are a righty). MSax

I was thinking about installing a detachable vertical foregrip on my AR15. Is such an accessory legal in NJ, or am I transforming the gun into a dangerous assault weapon (note sarcasm)? MSax

Thanks. That's kindof what I thought. It sounds completely absurd to me that the police would take you into custody if you were forced to use ultimate force while protecting yourself and your family from harm in your own home. I think the situation itself would be tramatic enough for one night. As a side note, I'm thinking that the police would not take the same care and handling of my valuable collection as say.... I would. So it would be nice to know that they would only take the weapon used in the situation. MSax

In a hypothetical situation...... An intruder breaks into your home at night and you, unfortunately, are forced to defend yourself in your own home. The result is a wounded/dead bad guy, but you and your family are safe and sound. The police have been called and respond to the scene. Would the police be required to take you into custody, and would they also be required to take all of your firearms from the home until the case is settled in the courts? Just curious how that would work? Any LE guys here? MSax

What do the NJ rules say about shot gun capacities as it relates to pump action guns? MSax

Guys, I just wanted to post an update on the gunsmith in CA that I previously mentioned that suggested that he can permenatly block a magazine (AR-15 Magazine to be exact). From what I've been able to determine, the proceedure uses a rod epoxied to the bottom of the follower that would limit the travel of to 10 rounds. They then epoxy the floorplate in place to make it "permenant". The mod is known as a 10/30 PMag Mod or 10/20 PMag Mod. You can do a search and find some further information. To make a long story short, no way in heck would I want to try to explain to LE that that mod is "permenant". That seems to fit the NJ Regulations definition of a temporary "block" that could easily by broken out with a screwdriver and revert the magazine back to hi capacity status. I'm not touching that one with a 10 foot pole. The other mod that I've been looking at is to actually take a 20 or 30 round ProMag PMag magazine and physically saw it in half/cut it down so that it physically can only hold 15 rounds. Obviously removing a large portion of the magazine body by saw would eliminate the possibility of reverting the magazine back to its original capacity. Sounds like a few gunsmiths here in NJ are/have done the mod. Some other threads on this forum discuss that option/availability further. It think if you were to go that route, I'd stick with the chopped down version over the CA "block" method. Just my $0.02. As for blocking a 17 round magazine to 15.... I've had no luck. Sorry. MSax

Melgamatic, Thanks for the tip on the 15 Rounders. I just picked up a few myself. They are 30 rounders chopped down to 15. MSax

Thanks for the info on the mags! Good tip! MSax

Absolutely. Thanks for sharing! MSax

I couldn't agree more! MSax