Ray Ray

When Glocks came out, the same argument was being made about them with the duty revolvers at the time. It's plastic, it has no safety, semi autos are not reliable, Yada Yada Yada. Well, we are again with that argument and guess what? They guys "in the know" where wrong before. Thanks for the debate GRIZ, and I too find zero use for 40S&W and anything over 357 magnum.

Shawn, the VP9 is my favorite of the three. I have the LEO version and it's probably my favorite striker fired 9mm gun on the market.

GRIZ, you really can't count on government contacts because you know as well as I do that's it's all about $$$. Like I said, Glocks are a great OPTION. But, there are others as well. Put the others in your hands and see what you like. And we all know that the OP will probably end up buying at least 2 of the guns in this category.

I agree, Glock has been in the game for a long time and that alone probably puts them over the top for many shooters. But many other shooters prefer a gun with real sights, or a trigger that isn't crunchy, or the ergonomics of a smart phone. So they go with the other plethora of 9mm, striker-fired options out there.

GRIZ, that was true 10 years ago. But it's 2017, and there are plenty of options that are just as reliable. Some are even cheaper, come with better options and have much better ergonomics. But, it's still an excellent option.

All three mentioned are the 3 most popular ones, and all are excellent choices. I would recommend renting them to shoot from Garden State shooting center or Woodland Park Range and see what you like. I would also suggest checking out the Walther 9mm lineup as well.

If you go there, he will tell you EXACTLY how long it will be.

There is stuff for sale, but no guns.

Back from the dead, nice

I went last year, Freedom Munitions almost gives away ammo they don't want to pack up.

I was wondering if anyone has been to this show. It's been open all week and ends this Sunday, the 12th. I'll be there this weekend.

GRIZ, I'll stick with Hornady Critical Defense for those guns. No need to beat them up.

GRIZ, thanks for the knowledge sir. They are in excellent condition and I have lots of it. I was wondering about shooting it in my Model 10 and my K38. But I probably would just use it in my 686 only. As for using it defensively, I would have to find an SP101 or something of that size to use it in.

Sounds about right. I know police departments frowned upon the use of 357s, so I figured this was their answer. The only issue is is that this ammo isn't from the 70s or 80s. It's like 15 years old, tops.

I have this ammunition that I know nothing about. I find it curious because you don't see its bullet weight or +P+ rating in 38 special rounds but it's popular in 9mm loadings. Does anyone know anything about it? For the record, I only shoot it in 357 magnum revolvers and it has some thump to it.

Cool, in. I'll bring clays

Waiting on new thread Christina

It'll be March before you guys find a date.

How do you know it's OD green? Man I want this gun.

My M9A3 has a threaded barrel, so who cares.

Why do you guys need all this military gear?!?!?

It's still a great pistol, I love mine.

Is there another one of these coming up?

Thanks Well done sir

Well done sir. An short reach trigger is in my future. Curious as to why you didn't have them remove the safety and just make it a decocker only.