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Thats what I did in Parsippany. I filled everything out, went to the record clerk and said "is there anything else you need" she gave me 1 form, I filled it out and left.

No, only a handgun.

Some manufacturers actually use a lacquer type paint. Sounds delicious.

I have a Blackwater DVD, very basic but very good.

Guys this would be the worst thing that could ever happen to the country and worse then Obama being elected. The whole balance of power would shift. I cant believe he would step down until a republican was safely in office.

Make sure you buy cans that have plastic coated interiors so the food doesnt interact with the metal. I believe most do these days.

Interesting worry about open carry by Chicago Attorney: MR. FELDMAN: But even more than that, Heller construed the Second Amendment's "bear" -- the word "bear," "to keep and bear arms" -- to mean the same thing as "carry" in this Court's case in Muscarello much later. And to carry -- generally to carry. Many -- there is a long history of regulation of not just concealed carry, as the Court did recognize in Heller, but of ban -- of banning open carry in a variety of jurisdictions. Again, generally, it's someplace that is -- it has a particular problem; it's a city or something like that. Who decides the city is big enough anyway? Crooks wont open carry, they dont even get legal guns.

Thanks for the advice. The preference is for the 45, the Paras just look pretty, but I think every gun I own is all black so I need to spruce it up with some bling. Funny about what you said about 9mm ammo. My P30 worked great with win 115gr, goodnt shoot too Fioccis without jamming (my fault they were light fragible ammo, and jammed last time out with Rem 115gr. I just oiled it really well and I am going to give the Remingtons one more shot and see if it was a fluke. Gun only has about 120 rounds through it.

Nice, I am getting the itch myself. I just saw the Para-Ordnance P18 9mm in Hitman and had me itching for a nice silver 1911.

Chief Justice Roberts all but forecast the court would issue an opinion that avoids deciding the harder questions about whether guns can be carried in public as well as kept at home. "We haven't said anything about the content of the 2nd Amendment," Roberts said at one point. He added that the justices need not rule on whether there is a right to carry a "concealed" weapon. Open carry in NJ? I'll take it.

I am going to miss good food, I have a feeling everything I eat will be barbecued on a spit or drowned in a stew.

I would like a 9mm and the selector and sight retro kit.

I would be pouring concrete between the walls not pulling them down. Maybe leave a small access area if you need an emergency exit.

Just as a note. Don't eat too much tuna. In a SHTF situation you don't want to end up with Mercury poisoning. There are recommendations but it boils down to about 2 cans of canned light or salmon a week or 1 can of albacore. 1 can of Albacore, ouch. I thought tuna would be a staple for the protein. Rice is a great idea, we actually have a bag of quinoa too which fills you up. I am a big fan of extenders, I am assuming that I will be placeing snares, hunting etc and I would love to make a rabbit a good meal for the whole family. Give me the eyes, brains and anything else edible but it needs to be palitable. Big pot, rabbit, large jar of tomato sauce. As for salt I would love to have a large amount on hand. Didnt think of salt licks but would love to be able to use it to preserve food, esp fish or dry out excess venison for jerky.

I was talking to a friend of mine about the stuff in this thread. The snowstorm has him spooked 2 kids and he realized he didnt have enough food to last more then a few days and went on a shopping spree. To his benefit he did buy a gun and 500 rounds of ammo when I told him to. Now he wants to know if he should keep anything else in the house. I am thinking 90 cans of food per person minimum. Should last him a month if there are real problems. Any input?

+1. I think its the idea of being holed up in a mall and thinking it's heaven. Plus slow zombies don't scare me at all.

Zombi 2 by Fulchi. Supposedly a classic but always looked cheesey to me. Maybe I'll give it a shot tonight. I know there is one incedibly nasty scene in it but I wont give it away. Also, less survivalist then a lot of others. I like my zombies post apocolyptic usually from a virus (gives it some realism) Romero is also coming out with another zombie movie next week.

I watched it last night, streamed it to my TV and liked it. Didnt see subtitles as an option but it was fine, it wasnt like there was a lot of speaking anyway. I thought it was a good take on it and the way they killed the film nerd was cool. I also enjoyed checking out the large breasted brunette. One thing that annoyed me is why he didnt take the M40 right off the bat.

I just saw Dead Snow on Netflix. Norweigen zombie flick. If you can deal with the subtitles, decent movie, a few laughs, lots of US film references BUT if the Zombies are fast, organized, Nazi zombies that can climb and use knives, we are screwed!!! As bloody as it was (its a zombie flick) the grossest part is a girl licking a guy's fingers a few seconds after we wipes his arse.

Most Anti's have guns. They just dont want you to have guns !!

Too much dead weight to keep around and rule. If its not a bunch of like minded individuals like the guys here I would rather be in my own. No dead weight unless I raised them or married them. I did consider trading venison for other goods since I dont think anyone around here is a stockpiler. Keep the prime cuts and preserve what i cant eat, trade the rest for medicine and other supplies.

Not mine but was interesting: 100 Items to Disappear First 1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.) 2. Water Filters/Purifiers 3. Portable Toilets 4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses. 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) 6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much. 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots. 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks. 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar 10. Rice - Beans - Wheat 11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,) 12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly) 13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking. 14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.) 15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric) 16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur. 17. Survival Guide Book. 18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) 19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc. 20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry) 21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) 22. Vitamins 23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item) 24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products. 25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms) 26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil) 27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item) 28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal) 29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many). 30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels 31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months) 32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST) 33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST) 34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit 35. Tuna Fish (in oil) 36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room) 37. First aid kits 38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates) 39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies 40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food) 41. Flour, yeast & salt 42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first 43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators 44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.) 45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts 46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns 47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times) 48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) 49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc 50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient) 51. Fishing supplies/tools 52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams 53. Duct Tape 54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes 55. Candles 56. Laundry Detergent (liquid) 57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags 58. Garden tools & supplies 59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies 60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc. 61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) 62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax) 63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel 64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc 65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats 66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) 67. Board Games, Cards, Dice 68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer 69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets 70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks) 71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water) 72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc. 73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) 74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels) 75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase 76. Reading glasses 77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) 78. "Survival-in-a-Can" 79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens 80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog 81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) 82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky 83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts 84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) 85. Lumber (all types) 86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from) 87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's 88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc. 89. Lantern Hangers 90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts 91. Teas 92. Coffee 93. Cigarettes 94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,) 95. Paraffin wax 96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. 97. Chewing gum/candies 98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing) 99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs 100. Goats/chickens From a Sarajevo War Survivor: Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks. 1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources. 2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden. 3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's. 4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.) 5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk. 6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll have a lot of time on your hands. 7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else. 8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

By the time they notice it will be too widespread, you can blow up Philly, DC, Neark and NYC and then the only thing left moving will be the zombies in between. I think a lot will depend on the incubation period. Piggybacking off that idea, the best places to survive will be the hardest places to do so, tundras, rock mountains etc. You need a desolate place people wont be drawn to. Water is a great example, we al need it but if you build near a stream, eventually someone will follow that stream. If you build near nice farmland, eventually someone will notice the tasty corn. And remember for every extra mouth you bring into defend the area, its an extra few mouths if he has family.

I was about to suggest if there was away to actually test our survival skills and see how long we could go if we actually had to rough it in a post apocalyptic world, and then I realized, its called camping.

I just watched Tooth and Nail this weekend, was expecting more w/ Madsen and Vinnie Jones (who were barely in it) but post apocolyptic (no zombies just cannibals) (In I am Legend and Last Man on Earth zombies are interchangeble.) You have 2 options stay hidden or join a well armed, well organized group.