Tactical Monkey

Good Evening Guys/Gals.... Going to get straight to the post of the post - I'm hoping someone here in the NJGF community would be willing to help me out by loaning me an EOTech for 7-10 days. I'd like to try one (again) before I give too much thought to purchasing one, and put it through similiar paces as I have all my other optics (no drop tests, I promise ). I'd like to do these test side by side with my other optics, hence why having some extended time with it (more so than an hour at the range if we just met up) would be beneficial. A 552/3/7 model would be preferred, but I'd take a 512 or similar if I had the opportunity. I have 24 positive transactions on the forum, and would be willing to give a cash deposit (returnable when I return the optic) as an additional sign of good faith. Sooner rather then later would be preferable, but obviously I'd be willing to work out a schedule that benefited both parties. If there's anyone who might be interested in helping me out - feel free to either PM or reply and we can work something out. I understand it may be a long shot, but figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Thanks.

This is true and a great suggestion. I use the fork and receiver plate system so I can switch weapon holsters/platforms any time I want to. You can leave a receiver plate on a paddle, belt mounted, vest mounted, or thigh rig, and have the forks on all your holsters. This allows any holster to be attached to any platform in just a few seconds. Plug and play. I also second the recommendation for the Safariland single strap shroud, and DFA.

Congrats!

Received this in my Inbox: *** NO NEED TO CONTACT SEN. VAN DREW OR ASM. ALBANO RE: LASER SIGHTS *** Thank you all for your response. I received a call from Senator Jeff Van Drew. Both he and assemblyman Albano have agreed to amend their bills so that it does not affect the use of laser devices on firearms. It is obvious to me after speaking with him that that was never their intention. Please let me know when the amendments have been made so that I can review them. In the meantime you can stop calling, writing, faxing and sending emails. I believe that the bills will be changed appropriately. They are trying to stop the rash of misuse of laser devices that have been pointed at ships and planes. The coast guard, military and state police have all been concerned about the damage these devices can inflict. The NJ2AS is no longer actively trying to stop these bills. Once again, thank you for your response. Activism does work when good people get involved. Frank Jack Fiamingo President - NJ2AS "NOW IS THE TIME!!!"

In addition to what is posted above - what order did you shoot the targets? If you started at 5, then 7, then 10 yards, you may have "warmed up" so to speak, and found your groove.

Vic, Good Luck & Godspeed Better late than never, better never late.

My Thoughts: It was designed to be able to fire a .30 cal projectile out of a standard AR-15, using the same bolt, BCG, magazines, buffer, buffer spring, etc., with the only requirement being a barrel change. This allows a lightweight platform to fire a 115-147gr .308 bullet, out of the most standard weapon in use by law enforcement and the military (with a huge amount of civilian shooter with AR15s as well). Suppresion/subsonic is just a benefit of the round design. I've shot subsonics through my Blackout Upper and it sounds a hair louder than a .22, and it's pushing a 220 grain projectile. So don't get to hung up on not having a suppressor, as even the super sonic rounds are pretty quiet compared to their .308 counterparts, Some of the hot topics about 300 Blackout: "300 AAC Blackout has as much energy from a 16 inch barrel as 5.56mm from a 24 inch barrel. You get 8 inches of barrel for free." "300 AAC BLACKOUT, due to the larger bore than 223, is very efficient in shorter barrels, and we have had good functioning results with AR barrels down to 6.2 inches." "300 AAC Blackout has a little less energy at the muzzle(than 7.62x39), but due to higher BC bullets, it is equal by around 110 meters, and by 300 meters, the Remington 125 grain Match ammo has 16.7% more energy than even the hot Lapua 7.62x39mm ammo." Regarding accuracy, I can shoot right around 1 MOA out of my upper at 100 yards off a bench, so it's definitely combat accurate. Potency, it's a landslide. IMHO, there is no better round ballistically inside 250 yards for all purpose defensive use. The 147gr carry a metric ton of energy downrange, and it was rated combat effective to 410m out of a 9" barrel by the military. The new Barnes bullet apparently is pretty devastating as well. Recoil impulse is less than or equal to a 5.56, and this was confirmed with 2 others who shot my 5.56 and 300Blk uppers back to back. Light as you can make your AR, so no added bulk like you get with a 6.8 or .308 AR platform. 30k round estimated barrel life, due to the relatively low PSI of the cartridge. Out of a 9" barrel, you're getting a 125-147gr projectile at 2,000 ft/s, with 1,100 ft-lbs at the Muzzle. That's roughly 25% more than 5.56 M855 out of a 9" barrel. Regarding reliability - the system has to be run wet. At least that's been my experience. I can shoot both super and subs through my AAC 16" barrel without issue. I originally had trouble short stroking with subs - but once I swapped to a standard carbine buffer I was good to go. It's not a round for the masses, but the SAAMI spec and the fact that it's been picked up by over 60 firearms & ammunition companies (barrels, reloading supplies, ammo, etc.) does make it an interesting choice. In NJ it's not as cut and dry, since the round excels out of short barreled rifles, and with suppression. However I really enjoy mine. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/37217-300-black-out-whats-your-thoughts/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/36546-caution-rem-umc-115gr-300blk-packaged-with-live-223-rds/page__fromsearch__1

+100

?? Anyone know the official ruling on thigh holsters for this particular event?

Deal with confidence. He met me at a convenient time/location, and besides the wait for his permits to come in it was a very smooth transaction.

The number of fatalities dropped to 12.

HA - well played

Seriously? On the short drop from your high horse I hope you accidentally clicked the Donate button, and made a contribution to the cause. Show a little appreciation for what mcbethr is trying to accomplish, and some respect for the fact that he's putting up his own money (along with everyone else who posted above) to fight for YOUR rights in NJ . Otherwise if you have nothing nice to say....

Agreed, Happy 4th of July everyone! I had my fun at the range this morning in honor of the 4th, which leads me to this: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/37706-donation-and-explanation/page__fromsearch__1 "Consider this a sort of Paul Revere fundraiser. Are you going to grab your musket off the wall and donate or hope the British don't pick your home as an example and just go away? We've been hoping for years, it's time to fight. The choice is yours." Rock on mcbethr!

Just kicked in $45.00 - Roughly the cost of the ammo I shot this morning, in honor of the 4th and our rights in NJ

To the OP - Wear gloves if you want to. I'm the most tactical guy at my range almost every time I go, and I get "looks" everytime I go. But then everyone shuts up and stops snickering once I shoot and manipulate the rifle. Gloves are very useful, regardless if they get labeled as being Mall Ninja Tactical. An example being a 8 hour carbine course in the middle of August when it's 90 degrees, the sun shining on your rifle all day, with 500+ rounds including rapid fire. People will be asking for spare gloves if you have them. I personally wouldn't wear them around the house or to sleep, but when it's very cold or very hot there is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing gloves while shooting.

Hey Kpd - Have you tried running it with the BCG wet, and I mean almost soaking? That helped me with cycling issues, and I have an AAC barrel. I have heard about the early SI barrels gas ports being a little under sized. Regarding ammo pricing for plinking, brass cased - reloadable - Remington ammo: http://www.cheaperth...CO102860-1.html $10.36 a box http://dansammo.us/r...lk-fmj-L300AAC2 $11.49/box if you buy 200rds http://www.midwayusa...acket-box-of-20 $11.99 box.

For starters - everyone who has shot my 300Blk Upper has either purchased an Upper, purchased a 300Blk rifle, or has started buying components to assemble their own... This is a cut paste from my other thread, but it still sums it up nicely in my opinion: The goal of 300Blk was to be able to fire a .30 cal projectile out of a standard AR-15, using the same bolt, BCG, magazines, buffer, buffer spring, lower receiver etc., with the only requirement being a barrel change. This allows a lightweight platform to fire a 115-147gr .308 bullet supersonic, out of the most common weapon in use by law enforcement and the military (with a huge amount of civilian shooter with AR15s as well). Suppresion/subsonic is just a benefit of the round design. I've shot subsonics through my Blackout Upper and it sounds a hair louder than a .22, and it's pushing a 220 grain projectile. So don't get to hung up on not having a suppressor, as even the super sonic rounds are pretty quiet compared to their .308 counterparts, Some of the hot topics about 300 Blackout: "300 AAC Blackout has as much energy from a 16 inch barrel as 5.56mm from a 24 inch barrel. You get 8 inches of barrel for free." "300 AAC BLACKOUT, due to the larger bore than 223, is very efficient in shorter barrels, and we have had good functioning results with AR barrels down to 6.2 inches." "300 AAC Blackout has a little less energy at the muzzle(than 7.62x39), but due to higher BC bullets, it is equal by around 110 meters, and by 300 meters, the Remington 125 grain Match ammo has 16.7% more energy than even the hot Lapua 7.62x39mm ammo." Regarding accuracy, I can shoot right around 1 MOA out of my upper at 100 yards off a bench, so it's definitely combat accurate. Potency, it's a landslide. IMHO, there is no better round ballistically inside 250 yards for all purpose defensive use. The 147gr carry a metric ton of energy downrange, and it was rated combat effective to 410m out of a 9" barrel by the military. The new Barnes bullet apparently is pretty devastating as well. Recoil impulse is equal to/less than a 5.56, and this was confirmed with 2 others who shot my 5.56 and 300Blk uppers back to back. No weight penalty, as light as you can make your AR. So no added bulk and weight like you get with a 6.8 or .308 AR platform. 30k round estimated barrel life, due to the relatively low PSI of the catridge. Out of a 9" barrel, you're getting a 125-147gr projectile at 2,000 ft/s, with 1,100 ft-lbs at the Muzzle. That's roughly 25% more than 5.56 M855 out of a 9" barrel. Regarding reliability - the system has to be run wet. At leasts that's been my experience. I can shoot both super and subs through my AAC 16" barrel without issue. I originally had trouble short stroking with subs - but once I swapped to a standard carbine buffer I was good to go. Clearly I'm a fan - so I might be biased. I'm currently working on a second upper as we speak.

+ 1 on the Galco King Tuk if your primary concern is concealing the weapon. I have both the full size XD45 5" & XD45c 4" models. Both fit well in the King Tuk, and I can hide the 5" model easily under a loose tee-shirt (although the XD45c is more comfortable)... And anyone who has met me FTF will tell you that's a telling achievement of the holster. HOWEVER - for me the draw is slower than I'd like, because I have to wear it so low. But if concealment is your goal, with a good gun belt the king tuk does it's job.

It's not a round for the masses, but the SAAMI spec and the fact that it's been picked up by over 60 firearms & ammunition companies (barrels, reloading supplies, ammo, etc.) does make it an interesting choice. In NJ it's not as cut and dry, since the round excels out of short barreled rifles, and with suppression. That said my 16" shoots subsonic's with the report of a .22, and has almost no felt recoil for a .30 cal projectile.

Two birds - one stone The 300Blk was not originally designed to be used with a supressor, it did however turn out to be a huge benefit when firing 220gr projectiles - but I will get back to that. It was designed to be able to fire a .30 cal projectile out of a standard AR-15, using the same bolt, BCG, magazines, buffer, buffer spring, etc., with the only requirement being a barrel change. This allows a lightweight platform to fire a 115-147gr .308 bullet, out of the most standard weapon in use by law enforcement and the military (with a huge amount of civilian shooter with AR15s as well). Suppresion/subsonic is just a benefit of the round design. I've shot subsonics through my Blackout Upper and it sounds a hair louder than a .22, and it's pushing a 220 grain projectile. So don't get to hung up on not having a suppressor, as even the super sonic rounds are pretty quiet compared to their .308 counterparts, Some of the hot topics about 300 Blackout: "300 AAC Blackout has as much energy from a 16 inch barrel as 5.56mm from a 24 inch barrel. You get 8 inches of barrel for free." "300 AAC BLACKOUT, due to the larger bore than 223, is very efficient in shorter barrels, and we have had good functioning results with AR barrels down to 6.2 inches." "300 AAC Blackout has a little less energy at the muzzle(than 7.62x39), but due to higher BC bullets, it is equal by around 110 meters, and by 300 meters, the Remington 125 grain Match ammo has 16.7% more energy than even the hot Lapua 7.62x39mm ammo." Regarding accuracy, I can shoot right around 1 MOA out of my upper at 100 yards off a bench, so it's definitely combat accurate. Potency, it's a landslide. IMHO, there is no better round ballistically inside 250 yards for all purpose defensive use. The 147gr carry a metric ton of energy downrange, and it was rated combat effective to 410m out of a 9" barrel by the military. The new Barnes bullet apparently is pretty devastating as well. Recoil impulse is less than a 5.56, and this was confirmed with 2 others who shot my 5.56 and 300Blk uppers back to back. Light as you can make your AR, so no added bulk like you get with a 6.8 or .308 AR platform. 30k round estimated barrel life, due to the relatively low PSI of the catridge. Out of a 9" barrel, you're getting a 125-147gr projectile at 2,000 ft/s, with 1,100 ft-lbs at the Muzzle. That's roughly 25% more than 5.56 M855 out of a 9" barrel. Regarding reliability - the system has to be run wet. At leasts that's been my experience. I can shoot both super and subs through my AAC 16" barrel without issue. I originally had trouble short stroking with subs - but once I swapped to a standard carbine buffer I was good to go. If you can't tell I really like the round. That's it for now because my daughter is crying and I have to go see what's up.

Updating this thread: Received 2 brand new boxes of ammo free of charge for the inconvenience straight from Remington's ammo plant. The rounds came after I spoke in-length with the Director of QC. Clearing up some other issues: Yes, it chambered, and the bolt seated enough to get a click out of the trigger. The primer on the .223 round did not have a dimple however. The reason I did not include it in the original post is because I have this thread cross-posted on multiple forums and didn't want the "OMG you could of died/your retarded" being the majority of the replies. I wanted to keep it focused on the issue of .223 rounds mixed in with that lot number. Since I don't mind thread jacking my own thread - 300Blk IMHO is the most promising cartridge to be released in the AR platform since .308. The benefits are many for the 300Blk, once you understand what the round can and cannot do.

Simple.... SBR and Suppressed 9" 300Blk AR Upper

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I have both the Ace Entry and the Sully stock. If you're looking for a fixed stock thsoe are the two that I would recommend. The Ace is very light, and I found the included slip on pad irritating - but a little para cord fixed that. The Sully stock carries some heft, but it is indestructible. I have the older model from before they started putting QD reciever cups within the stock - and sling ptions was the only prior negative I had about the stock. If you are striclty going for weight savings, that is where the Ace shines. But as a penalty you get an less than optimal cheekweld, and it requires you to either shoot square to the target, or have on BA or a thick vest. The Sully will out live you, but it's heavy (19oz with tube). It has a solid cheeckweld, and will bring balance to a rifle that lights, VFG, or optics mounted towards the muzzle of the receiver. Just my opinion after using each for ~4 years.