matty

Something i noticed today,none of the adult victims was male. The office staff and admin appear to have been all female. Not to diminish their efforts to stop the nut, but were there any adult men working in the school at the time? Any teachers, even a janitor? Elementary schools have been mostly or completely staffed by women for years. Some schools in my town have male principals, and a few male teachers. But for the most part they are in the tiny minority, even as custodians. Maintenance is centralized to save money, so they are just cleaners, really. Maybe it would have helped to have adult men right there to physically stop the guy, or maybe they would have died as well, just something i was musing on

Levang Linear comp works on the Keltec for me

At this point, I will wait for real information, like from the CT State Police. Anyone in the media is just jabbering fools at this point, I am not watching any news tonight at all or tomorrow. My 3 little kids will be happy about that, and so will I

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. William S Burroughs

UK, Dunblane, 1996. You will become very familiar with it in the next few hours/days

Jest if you will, I guarantee you, that before the day is out Dunblane will be mentioned, and the howls for banning will be all over the media. Thi sis the one that will get the banning people traction

Just pick him up and go. Stop worrying so much

Nup, it is a Firearms Purchaser Identification (card). FPID

Negligence & carelessness. It does serve to remind me to double check then check again and always have things cased when moving them. Mark Twain got it a hunert-30 years ago-- Don't meddle with old unloaded firearms. They are the most deadly and unerring things that have ever been created by man. You don't have to take any pains at all with them; you don't have to have a rest, you don't have to have any sights on the gun, you don't have to take aim, even. No, you just pick out a relative and bang away, and you are sure to get him. A youth who can't hit a cathedral at thirty yards with a Gatling gun in three-quarters of an hour, can take up an old empty musket and bag his mother every time at a hundred. Think what Waterloo would have been if one of the armies had been boys armed with old rusty muskets supposed not to be loaded, and the other army had been composed of their female relations. The very thought of it makes me shudder. - Advice to Youth speech, 4/15/1882

I don't think I have seen this posted yet, but Happy Hannukah to all those Forumsters of the Jewish faith

Whats a FOID?

Yeah, it was the first mile of a 5K about 10 years ago. Unfortunately it was an out and back, and I had to deal with wind and the effects of my sprint, and finished in something like 24 minutes. I remember shuffling to finish, never did that again. I still sometimes go out too fast the first miles, but remind myself to slow down.

I did a six minute mile, with wind, in Long Branch at a a race there.

WRONG. The FPID is issued by the CLEO of the town YOU LIVE IN. It is NOT issued by the NJSP. UNLESS your town has no PD and relies on NJSP for policing. Your DL and FPID addresses must match to do transfers at an NJ FFL ( and F2F I think). Go to---meaning physically go to the police HQ whatever town PD your permanent address is in ang get the forms there.

maybe you are a trigger milker

Too late. The Middlesex county prosecutor's office will thank you for soon enhancing the careers of several of its members

If its slamfiring with MIL spec ammo, stop shooting it. r at least tell me when yer going to cjrpc

Remember when BA got raided by the state for sales tax violations?

No more CCW for you 1. You didn't specify what 9mm or .22. You have a tec9? marlin semi .22 w/ 17 rd cap? AR have a flash hider & bayo mount? SBR? 2. No you do not need to register guns you already have moving to NJ. Don't do it 3. Register yourself for what? Are you a convicted sex offender? 4. Some require FPID some do not 5. No mags more than 15 rrds, posession is illegal

Sounds like they are treating you as if you moved in from another town and have to change your address on the FPID. Which you do to have it match your DL. They could be nice about it and just do it, but it seems like they are being douchebags about it from what you say--

The Chief's email address used to be on the Jackson PD website, but you can probably figure it out from Wagner's if you have it. I havne't looked in awhile. They may have admin people looking at their email before they get to it anyway. I did email them both, last Nov, when things were taking a bit long, and they took about 2 more weeks after that, so maybe my whining helped. It was for 3 P2P at the time. Shortly after that, I had heard that wait times went up a LOT. There were numerous retirements & promotions and new hires around that time. The JPD is still at a lower staffing level than 5-10 years ago. You all may remember the vote on the muni budget last year and the game of chicken the Mayor and the Biz Mgr played with the twp employees. The budget seems to be sorted out so far, but the JPD will probably use the lack of staff excuse, and of course the fact that they are getting more FPID apps and P2P apps now. as opposed to say 5-10 years ago, or even last year before all the druggie breakins happened. Squeaky wheels get the grease, you gotta get ahold of them and see if you can schedule a meeting. OTOH, Ron Dancer is the district Assemblyman (and ex mayor/curr Biz Mgr/Boss of Plumsted). He goes to the CJ legislative day and helped the club with the Pinelands commission. So he may be someone to contact to try & get these things resolved, as he is 2A friendly. Maybe a campaign contribution wouldn't hurt either. If someone/thing gets real ambitious and has a lot of free time (NOT ME!) then all these delays and resource limitations--if documented--may make a case that some politicians in the state may listen to to abolish this antiquated paper system

I didn't see it, but so far it seems like he was quoting or agreeing with the Whitlock piece from Fox sports. I really don't care what either of them has to say, I think it's a conscious effort by the MSM to push gun control. Whitlock may be coming more to it from a thug life aspect, and Costas is the more widely known white guy to repeat this for the sunday football show crowd.

What's the AO carbine flap got to do with this? Are you reading the right post? or just ranting?

The word of an FFL won't help you in a court case, if they are wrong for selling it to you in the first place. If you happen to run into LEOs/prosecutors that question it's legality, the best you can hope for is to have the thing taken away from you. Your selling FFL and you can claim ignorance and point the finger at each other, I suppose, and confuse the issue, but in the end, you have possession of said firearm. Unless you have something in writing from the NJSP or someone in the AG's office. If a semi auto shotty w/PG were legal in NJ, there'd be dozens of NJGF-ers that would have them and be buying and selling them every day on here. GLWT, I hope you stay outta trouble too---

NJ is not different than it was in 1994, he NJAWB dates from 1991, The only diffs in NJ 'law' (not talking about the 94-04 Fed ban which did affect some NJ things like mag caps) being,the 1996 clarification (heh) of Substantially Identical from the 91 law. That and the now prohibited shipping of CMP M1s directly to NJ customers. That's thanks to the current Governor and former AG Dow