JonF

LAst i heard, monmouth has capped off any new registrants so that alone might be your decision maker.

generally the answer is no, 22's just don't have enough energy to knock down all the plates. maybe they will work with the smaller plate racks but with the larger poppers I think you'll have a problem. I saw a video online of a guy at a club doing the same sort of thing and he was having to triple tap the plates to coax them over. so yeah, it is possible, but you will go through a lot more ammo then the center fire guys and run the risk of not completing the stage if you run out of ammo and magazines. but it's all for fun so why not give it a shot? you can enter multiple classes so bring your pistol too.

I generally bring about 300 rounds just to be safe. Usually use much less... say 200 rounds or something like that. Some of the stages will have upwards of 40 plates and with 5 stages, the ammo goes quick!

Steve, thats good to know. Did he say they would be all year round now? Previously they were somewhat seasonal with no matches for about 5-6 months during winter.

Yikes! Buncha savages in this town! If you had an HK Mk.23, you'd be able to shoot with a bandage AND winter gloves on. lol

What's wrong with your finger, Joe? One of your Tauruses go kaboom?

No, won't have it back in time to use it this weekend. I had to send the lower to builder so he can build the upper and test/tune it and, as of today, he is just finishing the building part and has yet to do the testing part.

Looks like the second Saturday is upon us. OB members, is this still on? Who's going? I'm definitely in!

I hope those vendors that the NJSP and AG harassed told them to go fook themselves!

I have had personal experience with owning a new PT1911. The gun was a lemon and didn't run right out of the box because the barrel and slide were fitted by blind, epileptic monkeys on meth. I sent the brand new gun back to Taurus (on my own dime no less) and they fuqed it up ever further by sending it back damaged with a 180 degree idiot mark and gouges in the stainless where they pried the safety off with a screwdriver (which doesn't even need tools!) and gouges in the frame where they beat the MSH pin out with a pick axe and missed. They had no direct replacement to give me and were going to send me a "new" blued gun instead but i had no permits to take possession with so I battled with them for weeks and eventually they refunded me the cost of the gun (but not the shipping). Never again.

Ummm, i'm not. lol Like i said, i'm going to ditch the Springfield trigger and get a non-adjustable Jard. Keep it simple.

The 15 round mag looks kosher so the gun is good. You should call them in the AM and ask them to clarify. I've dealt with wideners several times including firearm transactions and they're very nice people. I suspect its just a case of cut and pasting the ad copy.

Yes, you're right, i meant pretravel. I decided i'll just get a proper kit rather than try to struggle making this work. The JP yellow spring isn't igniting 22lr's and when i put the stock spring back in, it went to 6lbs on the trigger scale. It was 4 with the JP yellow spring and so even if i tried to JP Red spring, it might only be 5 lbs and i was looking for more like 3 at the MAX!

Would your famous gunsmith buddy care to share the results of his lubricity tests?

I'll tell you exactly why not... in an internal combustion engine you have a pressurized, recirculating oil distribution system that maintains fresh oil flow and replenishment. A firearm has non of these things and so through the process of firing, thin lube get flung off, burnt off, evaporate and simply migrate under gravity. Some guns do a better job of containing lube under tighter tolerances, low movement and semi-sealed parts, but the bolt carrier in an AR has got to be the worst environment ever. Non contained, exposed rails under a long stroke recoil with filthy hot gasses blowing all over them tends to pollute and erode any lube put there, especially a thin oil. I've always had better luck with a light grease like Slide Glide or Slip EWL 30 or 50 weight that will STAY THE fugg PUT and go the distance and not run down and evaporate like Militec, run like normal EWL or any other thin oils. This alone is why motor oil is a poor choice to begin with. But i guess some people like to clean and lube thier guns often.

It turns out that i have a few issues preventing me from even trying this trick. First, my receiver isn't even drilled all the way through. Secondly, my hammer/trigger was tuned by Bill Springfield and the trigger has a small overtravel bump welded on effectively doing the same thing, although non adjustable.

Yep! 15-22 mags will feed a ceiner style bolt no problem, the issue is getting them to stay aligned and seated. Like much of the 15-22, the mags are not quite AR "spec" and specifically, they are a little shorter front to back and so are a little sloppy in the mag well. The site below makes a simple spacer plate that affixes to the magazine which takes up the slop and keeps them square in the gun. There's also a secondary benefit... the same guy makes a bolt catch that is actuated by the 15-22 mag when empty and locks the bolt back and stays locked after the mag is released like a proper bolt catch should. This feature only works with 15-22 mags reliably, but not black dog or CMMG's. You can do the CMMG EVO bolt stop but its a proprietary part that you have to fiddle with and only works with thier EVO mags which are rare as hens teeth right now. http://www.arcatch22.com/

Matt, TACCOM makes all the carbon goodies. If i recall, you have a Nordic upper, right? Taccom recently announced a carbon sleeved barrel is in development for the nordic receiver. If thats the case, i might switch over depending on how this CMMG EVO kit runs. I hear the nordic uppers just run.

Ahh, good eye, you fellas catch on quick! It's indeed a dedicated 22lr build. The primary components are polymer upper and lower receivers, carbon fiber buttstock, carbon fiber sleeved barrel and carbon free float tube. Once nice aspect of this gun is that its built using true AR components, not a chassis wrap around a 10/22, or an "almost, but not quite there" M&P 15-22 that shares nothing with the AR world. The rifle is 3 lbs even before the optic was added. Should make a nice, fast steel challenge gun.

I decided to pick me up one of these new fangled polymer receivers for an extra special build. What's wrong with this picture?

Interesting. IT looks like it takes out the dead pretravel, but does it do anything for the overall pull weight?

I actually have a S3G trigger in my 5.56 carbine and i love that trigger, however, i was looking for a lesser expensive, single-stage alternative for my dedicated .22LR build. I'd love to have a Geissele in every gun but that can get expensive quick! The problem with some of the simple GI-based massaged trigger kits is that they will use lightened hammers and springs which may be fine for most centerfire primers, but that's not always the case for 22lr. Often you need heavier springs for reliable rimfire ammo ignition in the same gun, but it for pistols or rifles using some conversion kit.

SOLD

May you see with utmost clarity the hair on a gnat's arse at 100 yards. Enjoy!

How do the jard's stack up? I'd like a nice 2-3lb single stage trigger for use with a 22LR upper for steel challenge but it has to have sufficient hammer spring tension to ignite the 22. My current springfield speed hammer/jp yellow fails to ignite all 22's with my CMMG bolt nearly 100% of the time.