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As the son of two psychologists I have heard anecdotally many many stories about people and their mental illnesses. Just a few things I want to add, Only SOME families can be counted on to raise the flag of mental illness. Some are too poor to pay for psychiatric care, some don't want to be put on drugs, some are afraid having their children locked away forever and some don't want to in any way bring what they belive is harm to their familiy members, etc and so on... If you can agree this is true ( I believe it is fact, but you all can make up your own minds) then you can see that sometimes it is up to others outside the family to bring certain things to the attention of authorites or mental health practitioners. If the case mentioned here, there is very little for anyone to make a decision. There are far to many things a trained psychologist looks at for any of us to know for sure what is going on here. For instance, a person going to a psychologist could tell the doctor one thing and his friends and family another. Those discussions are private. Just because you are aware he is going and tells you it is for one thing doesn't mean you have the full picture. Your friend should enter all the information asked on the application form and not try to dodge anything. From what you decribe he may not need to enter anything about it at all, but only he knows for sure what is going on there. He needs to enter it honestly and not fudge it just so he can own a firearm.

Tragic

YOu will also be about 7 minutes from Black River WMA

Not much of an attack on the guy, mostly an analysis. This part is very true;

I fear that poor guy will forever beat himself up for buying ciggarettes.

Kudos to ya Ray Ray. Great idea. I just can't make it. keep the ideas coming though..

From the story this is why I recommend completing police reports against the guy that threatened babagonish... over some snow. One guy having a run in with him is one thing, two people willing or at least considering a police report over seperate incidents really does mean something.

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What size are you? I imagine if I were to sell you my lightly used one I would have to pay for a premium membership, but if it doesn't fit you there is no point. Although mine is not what you would call concealable.

My Glock 19C is my HD weapon and it has a compensator...

never underestimate mental illness.

Yea, it would be very bad form to say that every gang banger now carrying has a legal right to carry while the law abiding wait for an actual court decision.

Makes you wonder why anyone would write it in the first place.

snipers are pretty discrete. Go for it. Is "menacing" a misdomeanor in NJ like in NY? The cops were aleedy there so if nothing happens past that he gets away with it. In my experience people like that already have a few knocks against them so shake it out and see. The neighbors willing to sign a complaint has me sold. If they refuse i wouldn't touch it again. In the meantime, this situations well taken care of with some high grade OC spray. It may not be entirely legal but it is not a pistol. It has range outside of his 4 foot picker and is generally seen as the weapon of a victim. People carry it when they fear dogs, who is to say?

The story is very relevent. Because, yes you could have an incident happen on your driveway. Secondly, the entire document is exactly about the court case, how the man was portrayed and what it took to counter. For instance, he was an NRA trained instrcuctor, the DA tried to paint him as a "wannabe." It wasn't until they showed him training Marines to go to Afghanistan that that was succesfully countered. Unless you train Marines there is very likely no way you could counter that portrayal of yourself, no matter where the shooting occured. There is much to be learned from that document and should not be dismissed simply because the man was on his driveway when it happened.

+1 right there. The best thing that could come out of this thread would be if we found the link to rhat story about the man attacked in front of his house by three people. It was a .pdf sent arond by a legal or lawyers "network.". I particularly remember that the attackers were something like semi pro kick boxers or something. That document us really somethng we all should read start to finish. It was only incredible luck this guy was not in jail and paying out a windfall for the rest of his life. All the thoughts about what I thought would be common sense went right out the window. Edit here. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/18590-a-must-read/page__fromsearch__1

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=114&Itemid=1 here is the article I was thinking about.

There is an organization that is associated with the Cherry Ridge folks. I can't think of the name, but in the newsletter about two months ago they were alerting people about spring assisted blades and such. It seems that th Police are getting tougher on people that have a knife visible. Not much to go on for you in this post but that organization has a lot to do with NY knife laws. I will see if I can find it when I get home. I have never heard in New York City anything that would compel you to wear a knife where it is not concealed. I don't believe there are any such laws. Those that carry a knife in NYC clipped in a pocket or on a belt do so for easy acces. FWIW, I have a spring assisted blade that I have carried everywhere for about 5 years. I don't get stopped by police, haven't even got a more than a single parking ticket in about 8 years so I have never had ocasion to test its legality with an LEO. I also don't wear it clipped into a pocket, or in any way visible.

military.com "high powered rifle" and a propane tank. caution for language.

On the surface the passionate arguements seem to make sense. But I am not sure I can get behind a "second amendment rights for all and legal heroin for addicts! Heroin that is legalized because people should be at liberty to get addicted to the stuff, and if they die from it so much for the better for society" point of view. The holes in the logic are quite deep. That is not a flag I am going to be waving anytime soon. I am kinda feeling weird posting in the same thread, quite honestly.

Other than the "fully Loaded BB gun," why is this an issue? Cops are supposed to investigate and arrest people commiting crimes. Are we to start asking the ROI for all police activity?

Regarding sight picture, I go with another article from years ago, possibly Ayoob as well. It stated that the grip of the handgun (it did not speak on long guns) should be at the angle where you can feel that your index finger will naturally fall in line the way it would if you were to simply point at something. It had a little exercise where you put your hand up and point at something and then check to see accuracy. I tried it and was convinced. So when I looked for a handgun I went for the one that had the grip at an angle where my index finger almost naturally points, or would be if it weren't on the trigger. This I practice at short distances. For short range there is no reason to try to shoot a guy in the eye, just point at the torso. When I first started doing this it felt very natural and I consistantly get hits where I want without any sightng at all up to about 15 feet. And this is using a target that I consider as wide as a man's profile, since I think it would be very rare that a person is 100% chest forward to you. From practice I know I shoot a little low and left this way so I feel that pointing with the index finger and compensating the aim would do me very well under stress and movement since it is very little to remember. I settled on the Glock for the best grip angle for me. My Ruger Mark III does not work in this aspect at all.

I remember an Ayoob article that pointed out manuever and its importance in engagimg multiple targets. His contention was that in that kind of engaement you should be moving, and your movent should try to have the closer guy mask the further guy. So to use the example here ( and I assume "screwdriver guy" and "gun guy" are in a field of sorts where there is nothing to hide behind) would be that you would move sideways until gun guy's line of sight is blocked by screwdriver guy. This seems like a plausable tactic in many instances, even hand to hand.

Ever see this one? I am always amazed at real life footage. It jsut isn't what you ever expect.

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