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They hate a Jewish state because they know jews live there. Face it Maks, they all hate us. :naughty: I refuse to look at it like everyone is out to get us. About time we stop acting like victims. none of the israeilis, soliders, or anyone I met there over 2 weeks felt like a victim. They were fighting for their state. If they are all out to get us, the bus driver that drove us around for the duration was Arab... and there were plenty of cliffs. :pray: The vast majority of Muslim Arabs are good hardworking people. Its the extremism on both sides, that is the problem. Because of Ahmadinajad, and other nut jobs, they are acting as the mouthpieces for everyone. But guess what... the majority of Iranian citizens dont give a rats a** about israel. the only ones that do have a serious issues with jews and israel are the ones on the receiving end of the conflicts, those in Gaza, and hezbolah controlled Lebannon. the rest of the country is actually an ally. Much like Obama, :hope: , is not the representation of America, overseas, people look at him as though he is. Ah, never said we were victims or everyone was out to get us. My refuse to be a victim has nothing to do with religion. It is about being a victim of violent crime of which I am unable to defend myself. BTW, when was the last time an arab/muslim came out and said, you know what, time we stopped messing with the jews already?

They hate a Jewish state because they know jews live there. Face it Maks, they all hate us.

For whatever reason, Jews have been consistently the most hated group of people since the beginning of time. Country or Continent does not matter. Plain and simple the jews are hated the world over. Their will always be a need for jews to bear arms to protect themselves. Why most of them in this country are against that is beyond me.

Jews For guns!! I was brought up in and my family still maintains a pretty anti gun attitude. I still get odd looks from my father (and I am 37yrs old) when I tell him I am going shooting or taking an NRA course, or anything like that. I got all the usual liberal bullshit (and he is an indy, not a dem-voted GWB 2xs and Mcain) at the dinner table. You know- I read in the paper 5 years ago a 10 yr old kid ofund his fathers gun an accidentally shot himself. Your an idiot if you keep a gun in the house. (this was by another relative). I said, I read 300 children were killed in car accidents last month in the tri state area alone. When are you selling your car? I just don't get it. The answer I always get is, well I don't think anyone should own guns. I say, what are you, 8 years old? Bad guys have guns- period, they don't care what you think. Why shouldn't a law abiding citizen not own one? Never get a straight answer from them. My final rebuttal is always the same. I REFUSE TO BE A VICTIM!

I thought FS meant Fo Sho? :character-spongebobdance:

Those things are a menace and waaaayyyyy over populated. I believe they are what Caused Capt. Sullenberger to lose his engines and land in the Hudson. My FIL is a State Ranger and when he was located in one of the very rural parks in the state, they told him when things were quiet and he had nothing going on to grab a shotgun and go shoot some Geese. He said they were pretty tough to sneak up on when he was in uniform. Said they appeared to be pretty smart Canadians.

Happy Bday! Enjoy!

Look I agree and think they are all a bunch of self serving a$$holes, but worrying about 2000 tax on guns and 500% tax on ammo when no one is talking about it but us is silly.

You wont get both the congress and senate to pass a law with absurd taxes on ammo or guns. Too much lobbyist money to throw around to prevent it anyway even if it comes up for debate (which it hasn't and I will bet anyone on this board that it won't- as in going to the house or senate for a vote). ASIDE from the fact what you are referring to was taxing bonuses on execs of companies who received federal bailouts with your and my money. OUR tax revenue went to pay bonuses of companies that had to be bailed out. QUITE different (and they should never been allowed to receive bonuses with taxpayer money PERIOD)!

No and Obama and the dems won't have control long enough to be able to do it even if they wanted to.

Maybe, maybe not. How about a $2,000 federal tax on all gun purchases and a 500% federal tax on all ammo purchases, with the proceeds going to help fund Obamacare? That goes along with the current tax on alcohol and tobacco products and the proposed taxes on "unhealthy" food and drink. Since guns will be considered a public health issue, how is it any different from drinking, smoking or obesity? Just sayin'. They are not allowed to levy those kinds of taxes on anything. It has been tried before ( can not remember the exact instance to quote), but their is some federal regulation that prevents an absurd tax like 500% on anything.

Yep, I can't really see this happening.

I am in similar dilemma. I wouldn't mind joining a range. Central Jersey is too far for me, Old Bridge is very expensive and I did not like their indoor range (have not seen outdoor). A Shame since it is SO close to me, but the price of $385 per year + initiation fee and all their other stuff is a it much for me.

Thanks genewarper. I am not a member of anywhere yet. I did like Central Jersey a lot (facility wise), but is really too far to be practical for me. I am obviously very close to Old bridge, but they are expensive and did not like their indoor range all that much. So, I am undecided as of now. How about you?

if it works out, next meet when I have it, you are more then welcome to try.

I did like it when I shot it last night, but Caine knows what I am talking about with the M&P. He was there when I shot it and 3 other 9's right in a row. My accuracy was much better with it then the 92fs, Hi power or G19. if the trade works, I will be looking forward to some trigger time with the XD for sure as that is what I shot the most last night.

Thanks Caine. Funny, may have an opportunity to trade the g26 for an XD tactical. I CERTAINLY liked the XD enough to do the trade, but am also def. buying the M&P I do not think their is a 22 conversion barrel yet for the M&P or XD, but that would be very very nice.

HOWDY!

I don't believe it is any type of Conspiracy. The whole Swine flu thing started way before Obama I believe and this is just typical fear mostly prompted and promoted by 24hr news media. If we didn't have it shoved in our face for 3 minutes every hour 24 hours a day, it would be no big deal.

The Hype is bullshit anyway. My Stepson was diagnosed with Swine flue end of this summer (yep, CDC involvement, the whole 9 yards). Now don't get me wrong, he was sick. fever appeared on a Sunday night and he was in bed feeling like Sh!te most of the week, but with no fever by Thursday, he was back to school on Friday. He is 12 and wasn't even sick a whole week. I was FAR sicker when I was a kid and had intestinal flu or earlier this year when I had Pneumonia.

Yes, would love to trade for an M&P, but chances are slim for that. I am def getting the M&P, as soon as my new permits come in, but figure I should also get a 22 as well. I shot ok with Glock last night. 3 Bulls-eyes at about 27-30' (with a few misses as well). That was at the end of the session when the instructor moved the target down a few inches believing (and proving) my natural sight picture is slightly lower. SOOO can not wait to shoot an M&P again

At my 1 on 1 range instruction as part of my NRA class (range portion was rained out on Sunday), I got to shoot a Springfield XD (which was the last gun I wanted to shoot before I made my final decision). I must say, it was a very nice gun and a favorite of my instructor, but my mind keeps going back to how good Caine's M&P 9FS felt and shot for me. So, time to move away from my G26, get me an M&P 9FS and probably a Ruger .22 to practice and plink with. On a positive note, the instructors were very happy with my shooting last night. Managed to get most of my .22, .38+p and 9mm on my 9" paper target, almost all grouped within a hand spread. Have to work on that flinch, MAINLY the flinch right before the 1st trigger pull. Lots of trigger work to do, but the M&P is def my next gun, then a .22.

I'll take the Ruger if you don't.