NJ609

Just another way to scare people off. Seriously.

It really comes down to intimidation through misinformation and bureaucracy. Scare you with the misinformation, then make you lose hope when the red tape takes longer than state law allotted time of course compounded with their "there is nothing you can do about it ha ha" attitude. Welcome to New Jersey.

Critical defense is a hollow point with polymer squished into the cavity, correct? Do we have legit confirmation from a state official, in writing, that such ammunition is not considered HP?

I also think that my change of address is going to be an ordeal. It should only require $18 plus a new $5 card but they always like to somehow throw me curveball during the process. This was where I got my initial card a few years ago so I refuse to accept any BS about new fingerprints. They really don't care about laws as is shown by their illegal additional form: Household form

Since I'm going to have to change my address soon I was nosing around Franklin Townships FAQ and saw some amazing and totally inaccurate items. Link to PDF My favorite was "Note: Although you are not required to possess a New Jersey Firearms Purchaser Identification Card to inherit firearms, you WILL NOT be able to transport, purchase ammunition or fire the weapons at a qualified firearms range unless you possess a New Jersey Firearms Purchaser Identification Card." Are they serious?

I know you don't actually believe that the 5.56 round "doesnt do sh!t".... Having said that, even though I only have my AR right now, I eventually want one of each. Because the more rifles the merrier!

This wasn't a small issue. And I was happy with how it was resolved. So that's what I posted. Doesn't let them off the hook for their past though.

You are correct. They take too long, send out notices, and in general do not recognize our rights. And last time I went to get permits I had to pester the crap out of them or it would have taken even longer than it did. I still maintain that someone needs to bring them up with the State Police or even sue them due to these violations. However, and I ask that you consider this as you reply, this time was a positive interaction and deserved to be noted as such. Sometimes you have to be honest with yourself and thank someone when its due, even if you don't like them. This is a case where the guy could have probably made my life a living hell, but instead was helpful and understanding. So both of you are right. They ask for permission which is illegal and insulting. And yes, I am FULLY aware of the post you linked to. But to ignore all positive interactions just because they don't help us make our point lessens the point we are making.

Saw that Maks was giving credit to his PD for a positive experience and I thought that's a pretty appropriate thing for us to do from time to time. So easy to dump on them when it goes bad, so I feel I need to say something nice for a good experience too. I had an issue that went from the SP to my local PD for some clarification of information. The CPL in charge of permits was courteous and understood how I'd be a bit apprehensive that they would call me about the permit but we got it all worked out and he's taking care of the issue. I can't really say it could have gone any better so they deserve some credit this time!

Man that came out great . Glad to help restore something to it's former glory!

In it to win it. Thanks for fighting the legal fight on our behalf!

This is step 1: http://www.franklintwpnj.org/Household%20Member%20&%20Fingerprint%20Info.pdf Then they mail whoever you specify an illegal form that's effectively their own reference check with someone you live with. I believe one of our members, j0n, has the form.

j0n probably has the one from Franklin township, I hope he can provide it to you as he's already working with the SP to get rid of it as far as I know.

I wonder what it would be like to live in America instead of NJ...

I really hate how all my friends in PA make fun of all the rules we have about light bulbs in NJ.... You should see the kinds they can buy there!

When I replace parts due to trying something out I keep the old stuff. I also keep some parts on hand for things that could break (buffer assemblies, bolt carriers, most of the parts on my .22lr) just because it's easier than ordering them when something breaks. That way, no down time. I'm not really worried about SHTF but I guess if you are, spare parts are just as important as ammo.

So is NATO .45 FMJ more powerful like +P or they don't use that because with FMJ it would over penetrate? Because .45 ACP +P is a pretty bad a** round... Although in a war zone I'm not sure why you'd care about over penetrating considering the rifle rounds they use....

It's ok though. Carnies are usually criminals and we all know that NJ protects criminals above all else. You'd only be arrested if you were a law abiding, community building, non criminal record holding citizen with one of those compressed air "machine bb guns".

For a true pocket gun, the Ruger LCP is pretty good. Anything larger isn't really going to fit in most dress pockets.

*pew pew*!!!! Love that gun. I'm sure it's even better to shoot now!

lol

Ray, I'm a big fan of Remington Golden Saber 124gr 9mm +P rounds, or normal 124gr non +P's. The Glocks all *love* them. I am familiar with the Critical Defense and use it in my .380. But I stick to GS's for the larger calibers because they have always worked well in all the firearms I've used them in over the years.

It's nice to see a happy ending for NJ gun owners. So rare... so rare....

Well, with the $10 code I supplied this is cheaper than JG because of their shipping prices. But it's good to know where else this can be had. I will get another tin next month when I have some money. As GlennP has told me numerous times, buy it cheap and stack it deep.

It's always nice to help people out like that. In the end, if it were you or your kids or your spouse, wouldn't you want someone to help? Karma points dude, good lookin out.