NJ609

I sent a PM last night, let me know if I'm in. Thanks either way for assisting with this offer!

Just don't stand down wind of that first shot. Mines always crazy smokey.

It's amusing when they use the term "cop killer" with hollow points. If anything you can get a way more dangerous over penetrating round with some +P+ ball ammo. The anti's don't even try, do they....

Wait.... You actually had a CCW in NJ? Were you uber politically connected? They don't give them out to "the common folk".... Stay in PA and enjoy America. Although family does make things difficult. I don't envy your choice, it's why I'm still stuck here...

I'm sure this is the best Xmas present him and his family have ever received!

Depends how close. Just because there is no gun doesn't mean a close target is not a huge threat. What if they take you down in the *instant* you acquire and fire on the distant target? Then you are just as screwed.

I'd laugh if I didn't think it was so close to the truth...

Warmer months, Ruger LCP. Thing is just so easy to slip in your pocket and go.... Not sure about warmer. As much as I like XD's I think they are too fat. And as much as I like the Glock 19, I want something more than 9mm. (Irony considering the LCP is .380!) But I can totally see ending up with the G19 and being very happy with some good brand name defensive ammo. Because, you know, the HP laws will be repealed too. Duh.

I'd be interested. A lot of it depends on how finances go in the next month though.

Yeah that's a good point. CCW is effectively pointless in NJ if you can't even defend yourself from a violent armed criminal. Does anyone know of any case law where the blessed few CCW permit holders actually had to use them and went to trial? Resolutions?

Another week, still waiting. This TWP sure is great at breaking the law. Just left a voice mail to see what the hold up is now.

I didn't know Bob was near the border. I like CP, I don't usually have to wait for a rifle/pistol stall and the prices aren't bad.

I love these things because they are excellent day time sights as well. When I had a Glock 17, that's what was on them. Now the only pistol I have NS's on are my XD40. I figure, how many pistols can I really use at night if the SHTF?

We don't have kids yet so when the alarm system started blaring, I'd have the Mrs. call the cops and I'd let the crook know that he's not welcome to join us upstairs. I sure hope to god nobody is stupid enough not to believe me. I can't imagine how damaging it would be, even in defense of your/families lives, to have to pull that trigger. But if it's you or them, well... I don't think there is much of a choice there. I really would hope that none of us ever have to find out though.

Respect to the dog. And a heartfelt condolence to his partner on the force. But yeah, we're broke. Nobody should wonder why. It's all part of a larger, and much more difficult issue. So easy to say "well this time it makes sense to spend all this money! of course it does!" when it's your issue. But.... Something has to give.

Jim is usually pretty vocal about things he feels are BS. What was his take on it?

So I finally got a return call. Apparently the "family something or other department" has not been responding to requests. I'm not sure why they are involved except maybe to check on pending domestic violence issues. The nice woman on the phone sounded pissed, and said that she has a stack of permits from over a dozen people waiting. I love that the system is so stupid that it pisses THEM off too. rofl.... Hoping to hear back that the papers are ready this week.

Glocks, XD's or MP's are all superior quality. It very well may come down to which one you are more comfortable using, grip angle, etc.... You can't go wrong with either of the three IMO.

We actually need rulings like that for the issue to make it to the SCOTUS. It's all part of how the process works, nobody should be surprised by it!

I called last week for a status and nobody called me back. I guess they don't like me. This post motivated me to call back again today and ask what the deal is with my permits. $5 says they don't call back, again....

Honestly if that day ever occurs I wouldn't consider leaving NJ anymore. Taxes are high but the location is good as long as they are not robbing us of our constitutional rights. To think that we could be part of America at some point is a Big Deal.

I'm thinking after the epoxy I should steel wool the area down and use this: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=42731/sku/Matte_Clear Or... Do I just say the heck with it and refinish the whole stock with this stuff? I'd call that stage two... Any advice would be welcomed for the "post crack fix" part of this project as well.

That's the thing. We *are* talking about budget stuff. This will make the state more money while costing less than the burdensome and not really money making PP process. (A LOT of work goes into doing all the checks for those stupid things....) This saves the state and municipalities money, while bringing more in every 5 years than the current system. MOST people don't really buy that many pistols that the $2 per permit matters, plus the state loses more than $2 a permit due to the man power spent on it.

Shotgun: It's a shallow "shave" type crack, not very deep it seems. Rifle: Pretty deep and goes on for a bit, I will probably have to remove the barrel etc for this...

I know that as I help Glenn defend his house with my AR15 he will tell me with each and every shot how much he hates it. But I think .223/5.56 is more useful than .22LR. You are pretty much guaranteed that it's going to penetrate the cranium where as .22LR may not. Or maybe the 12ga 3" trench clearing Model 12 I need to get fixed. Boooooom.