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M1 Thompson (The Squad Leader Version, not the gangster version) Beretta PX4 SD in .45 ACP

I guarantee you that you will get your Texas Drivers license faster than you will get your NJ FID card.

Welcome to the forums. Take the advice of the above posters. Give the gun back and get your FID. Do not, under any circumstances, fire that gun with modern loads if the barrels have a sort of "twisty" sheen to them like in the picture below. http://www.hallowellco.com/damascus_twist_barrels.htm This is a Damascus barrel. They used to make them in the same way you make a pig in a blanket. The took steel and wrapped it around a pole, then pulled the pole out. It was cheaper than trying to drill out bar stock and made for black powder guns. If you try to fire a modern day smokeless power round through there, the gun could very well explode. There isn't much value in the gun anymore other than as a wall-hanger over your fireplace. If you genuinely want a shotgun something for home defense, there are plenty of pump-action shotguns out there that will do a much better job.

You picked a fine gun.

I'll chime in on this. I own a PX4 Compact. I thought about going with the sub compact mainly because I liked the bulldog looks of it. But I wanted the rotating barrel. Long story short, no regrets on the PX4 Compact. It's small enough to carry under a sport coat and can do double duty as a nightstand gun. The rotating barrel turns its recoil into a cream puff. Plus, it has max NJ Legal capacity of 15 rounds. If you get a Full-size PX4, you get the 10 rounders and have to buy the 15 rounders from Beretta. Accessories? About the only accessory you need is a holster and I have 2 of them, one from Galco and one from Fobus. You can fit pretty much any other accessory on the rail. IMHO, go with the Compact. It's only a little bigger than the subcompact and nearly the same weight.

Ok, let's go there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEAYgYrVmDI

I would buy a vat of nuclear waste if it was shiny and had the Beretta Logo on it, but the Ruger MKII is a fine pistol, and much more classic than the NEOS.

If I were a young man, I would go to North Dakota & follow the oil boom.

I remember guns in the Marlton K-Mart back in the 1980's and probably up until the 90's. But I didn't get into shooting until 10 years go so I don't have much memory of it.

It's just a way of banning the evil black guns while allowing hunters their rifles and "reasonable" self defense guns. You would still be able to own a M1 Garand, your 1911 and your J Frame. It kind of turns us into Germany - I don't like it and it does seem pretty darn extreme.

No, I would think along the lines of TEC-9's.

They are both bad, just a different kind of bad. Once you get your FID and permits, NJ is *marginally* better.

Don't you understand, they have to pass the bill so you can see what's in it. (For those of you who don't get the reference)

That's exactly why you don't want these laws. Requiring a gun safety test for owning a gun is no different than a literacy test for voting.

Guns? I thought the NRA existed to sell wine and cheap logo trinkets.

Cherry Hill used to be pretty good. We got a new Chief a few years ago who demanded that all reference letters and spousal notification forms be notarized. I asked the Chief why and he said: "Because my name isn't going on any form unless I know the guy is good." Well, ask your Chief. And Contact NJ2AS. Nothing in the law requires that your photograph be taken.

I think the difference there is that CA, MA and RI don't require permits. CA just does straight NICS for longarms, and a Handgun Safety Certificate for Handguns. There is a 10 day waiting period for handguns in California, but you can pretty much walk up and buy what you want. Massachusetts has a kind of FID that is broken into three classes (one for pepper spray, one for "normal" reduced capacity weapons, and one for "large capacity weapons" but the FID is basically a 1 day safety course. RI just requires a safety course and 7 day waiting period. So again, it's NJ's arbitrary and antiquated permitting system that is hurting us. Any any of those states above, if you want a gun, you can get it without much trouble.

Yep. The hunt is usually more fun than the purchase. Like I said *ahem* PX4 in .45 ACP. #1. It's only $600 or so dollars. #2. You can get 10 round magazines for it that work. #3. A Ferrari 458 Spider comes with the gun along with your choice of a beautiful Italian blonde or brunette to go in the passenger seat. #4. You will suddenly find yourself a better dancer, better lover, and the most interesting man at parties. #5. It comes with a cool little blue cup for drinking Sambuca. At least I think that is what the cup is for. Or go with the FNP-45 and pray that the the folks in back in Herstal will get around to actually manufacturing magazines for it... someday.

I was just at Hagues in West Depford yesterday. They had no AR's or M1A's left and as far as I know, they don't sell AK's. They did have three M&P22 rifles up on the wall. The only handguns left were Beretta 92's (but they order them by the pallet), high end Sig 1911's and Kimbers. They had a 6" Python and Hi-Power in the case as well looking pretty lonely.

I kind of agree with the above poster. Give the M&P a look. But of all of those choices, I would go with the Glock, and I hate Glocks. But the magazines are and parts are much cheaper than an HK.

I think that in other areas of the country, people buy a gun on a whim, put 50 rounds through it, consider themselves "trained," throw it in the nightstand and forget about it. It's there if they ever need it. They don't go on gun boards or do the research. I have a co-worker who lives in PA and also owns a bar. He wanted to buy a Taurus Judge to keep under the counter at the bar. I talked him out of buying a Taurus Judge and suggested a Glock or M&P. He bought a Glock. When I asked what kind of Glock he had he responded: "A Glock 9." I said : "Yeah, but is it a 17, a 19, a 26." He said : "It's just a Glock 9." In PA, you can be a gun owner and not know a darn thing about the gun you own. In NJ, that's almost impossible because you have to be willing to jump through hoops and the uninterested get weeded out. So while NJ's laws don't exactly promote firearms ownership, they do insure that the people who do own a gun are rabidly pro-gun.

This shouldn't be difficult. Any optometrist should be able to make glasses with side shields for her. They do it plenty for people who work around industrial machinery.

I have heard this idea floated - basically an excise tax on ammunition that would make ammunition prohibitively expensive, but shooting ranges would not be subject to the tax, provided that they can guarantee that ammunition used at shooting ranges is consumed on the property. The theory is that people could still buy enough ammunition to have a magazine or two for home defense, but couldn't amass large quantities. Of course, I don't think anybody who thought of this plan ever thought about reloading. This is the epitome of feel-good legislation, because... you know... no crazed killer would ever put $10,000 of ammo on his credit card if he expected to be alive to pay the bill. But one advantage is that we would see less of Nutnfancy's trench runs.

IMHO, the Army seems to like the Mossberg. The Police seem to like Remington 870's. The advantage to the Mossberg is that the safety is on the top of the gun, which is good for lefties, and the gun doesn't have that loading gate - you just drop the round in and push it up. Some would say that the loading gate is an advantage on the Remington 870 since it keeps the loading port free from debris. Both are good, but the Mossberg is a little cheaper.

I have seen 10 round 1911 magazines for sale, but I'm not sure of the quality. Would I feel under-gunned with 10 rounds of 9mm? It depends. I don't feel under gunned with the 8 rounds of 9mm in my PF9 when i carry in PA. But I prefer the 15 in my PX4 as a nightstand gun. So, in some applications, yes.