Old School

Taint the arrow, but the Indian. I remember someone else saying that!!!

Sorry had to play with your quote...

I see you're one of the uninformed!!

"Silver Bullet" is a "COP" place. I went in there with a long pony tail and a beard and the Proprietor read as... AH had an attitude. Lesson to be learned... This is not COP bashing it's just one individual. BTW met some of the Bergen Cty Sniper Team at CR yesterday. Decent guys some were pretty knowledgable and enthusiast. Great sense of humor when the discussion of accidental discharge of Remington 700's arose...

Chris- It could be made to function but trigger pull would probably be terrible when the trigger bar passed that empty hole. So then to resolve that some other unsafe modifications would have to be made. LOL- Peeps should spend more time at the range. Most pistols are better than the shooters right out of the box. I'm sure everyone has seen competition guns that are so "F'ed" over that they are unreliable or unsafe.

Of course DON'T run without what you are calling the FPB. There are lighter "firing pin safety" springs made as well as titanium firing pin safety plungers. Niether of these do I consider significant improvements. An improvement can be found if the firing pin safey plunger is polished and the trigger bar is polished where it contacts the plunger. This will improve trigger pull but I think the action of this plunger on the trigger after it is pulled is BS. With all due respect to those concerned...

Take a few steps back and use that puppy to it's potential. Enjoy. Gen. George Patton thought it was a fine weapon. Guess he was right!!

I have seen one dicharge first hand with the safety on when the bolt was attempted to be opened. That was in the 70's. I would think they have fixed it by now. This was a stock out of the box rifle.

As you know the only NJ legal GLOCK 17 mags are 10 rounds. These are not desirable in the majority of states. I would suggest you go to GLOCK Talk and look for 10 rounders either new or used. I have bought used ones for as cheap as $8ea when I bought 5 at a time. New ones I paid as little as $15.

Maks-Welcome to GLOCK Perfection!

Glenn- Probably the size of the individual and the quality of the holster have a lot to do with it. I bought my G26 from a Trooper that tried to carry ankle and he went with a smaller gun. But then he tried to use a **** Uncle Mikes holster. Just my $.02

Glenn- With all due respect!! G26 "ankle gun" NO F^(K!n WAY!! Not for me anyway...

G19 is great! If you need to go a little smaller G26 if good. If you have the room put a G19 mag in a 26. I don't shoot 40's but they're nice too.

You NJ bastards can't be trusted with that extra 5 rounds...

As the OP I'll hijack... Years ago when we had a shop and were kids with no money we carried alot of different pistols. The rule of thumb was if it rattled when you shake it it would be reliable.

Agreed Shane. Loaded 15K rounds of 9mm last year and shoot on an average of once a week so I subscribe to shot placement under stress. Just always looking for an edge as you understand. I used to keep a Government for a go to gun but Kim is more comfortable with a 9mm and GLOCKS they are, as she shoots one in comp and let's just keep stuff all the same. So, the "9" is a means of defending my family when I may not be there. The majority of the military throughout the world shoot 9mm so how wrong can I be?

AMEN!!

As usual in total agreement with you Bob. How can they approve use of ammo of an unknown pressure. But GLOCK NEVER condons the use of reloads. LMAO The armorer trainer is the one that told me about the approval of +P+. I asked about Israeli "black tip" and he said Ok to that too. So as my resolve I'll be pushing +P+ in limited use.

True Maks as long as it lasts!!!

Chris- You're killing me...

It's not that I have any firearm integrity issues. The pistols I'm shooting are all rated +P+ as per the manufacturer. Secondly, thes guns will not be subject to a steady diet of this stuff. Sight-in, fuction tests and ammo rotation is when these guns will see the high pressure stuff. I think you're missing the point that a claiber change for me is a major change for me. BTW I have seen "K" frame Smiths split the barrel extention where it extends through the frame from a steady diet of 357's. I guess thet's why we have "L" frames. Thanks for your input.

You folks know my handgun preferences. I standardize on 9mm GLOCKS in my household for target and work guns. Now, as you know I own other handguns but my go to stuff are 9mm GLOCKs. I've felt a little under gunned lately and am going with Buffalo Bore +P+ in 124gr 9mm.as a defense round. Comparing it to 357 Sig it looks pretty close or to be read as adaquate. You guys think I'm "jerking myself"? Kicking up un calber would be a major strategy/logistics change for me. Here's some stats: BUFFALO BORE 9mm Luger +P+ Pistol and Handgun Ammo - (+P+) 115 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point (1,400 fps/M.E. 500 ft.lbs.) - 20 Round Box 1. Item 24A/20 (+p+) 115gr. Jacketed Hollow Point Browning Hi Power MK111, 4.6 inch barrel---------1426 fps Beretta 92F, 4.9 inch barrel-----------------------------1402 fps Glock 19, 4.0 inch barrel--------------------------------1389 fps 2. Item 24B/20 (+p+) 124gr. Jacketed Hollow Point Browning Hi Power MK111, 4.6 inch barrel------------1330 fps Beretta 92F, 4.9 inch barrel-------------------------------1304 fps Glock 19, 4 inch barrel------------------------------------1296 fps 3. Item 24C/20 (+p+) 147gr. Jacketed Hollow Point Browning Hi Power MK111, 4.6 inch barrel----------1179 fps Beretta 92F, 4.9 inch barrel------------------------------1131 fps Glock 19, 4.0 inch barrel---------------------------------1165 fps FEDERAL CARTRIDGE CO Premium Handgun Cartridges Federal 357 Sig 125 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point SPECIFICATIONS: Mfg Item Num: P357S1 Category: AMMO CENTERFIRE Caliber :357 SIG Bullet Type :Jacketed Hollow Point Bullet Weight :125 GR Muzzle Energy :505 ft lbs Muzzle Velocity :1350 fps Rounds/box :50 Rounds Per Box, 20 Boxes Per Case

Do you use a chamber brush when cleaning? Do you run a pipe cleaner through the gas tube? I'm not a fan of steel cased ammo in an AR. I think the major issue is cases sticking in the chamber and dirty powders fouling the gas tube.

PM Sent

Maks- I know 4895 won't measure well for me with those big honking extrusions. How is the 8208xbr?