Old School

Benjamin Franklin (1706–90) QUOTATION: Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ATTRIBUTION: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, November 11, 1755.—The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, ed. Leonard W. Labaree, vol. 6, p. 242 (1963). This quotation, slightly altered, is inscribed on a plaque in the stairwell of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty: “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” SUBJECTS: Liberty

Vlad - If all the other BS laws were eliminated, OGAM, FID, I would agree to all sales, dealer and private going through an FFL. As long as it was a background check only and not registration. Additionally the eligible person data base would have to be accurate and reflect those with mental issues, which is a gap at times, This combined with a greater reign on those with mental health issues would be a reasonable solution. May dangerous persons with mental health issues are on the streets and allowed to regulate their own meds.

And he couldn't be part of the conspiracy? How long did they delay the removal of the bodies? Do you buy their explanation?

TIN FOIL HAT ON! First my condolences to the families of the dead. I share in their grief. But did any one notice the first reports of the firearms used were GLOCK and Sig? Then all of the sudden it was a Bushmaster. Maybe this was all staged (meaning the firearms changed) to push an AWB. Just a thought.

I noticed Andover Hunt and Fish (formerly YOJ) has uppers and lowers too as well as Mastodon so the stuff is around if you're up north.

Good guy, generous with the brass and nice Ink Shop.

PM Sent to Rob

In addition to society degrading we have let all the crazies out of institutions because they have rights.

I really don't want to see a bloated increase in our police force but understand your sentiment. Ever wonder why you don't see these tragedies in the inner city? They have metal detectors and security guards. Airline pilots are allowed to be armed. How about an armed, trained volunteer (receiving a stipend) in every school. You have teachers being coaches on stipends...

Zell, that is a definite NO GO for me.

Why don't you Bozos play nice. Rob you know what is legal and what is allowed. Go to the post office don't volunteer any info unless asked. Personally I ship a firearm broken down if possible so it doesn't look like a firearm sized package and less likely to theft or scrutiny.

I haven't reviewed 9 pages of posts. Did anyone pick up on the fact these were firearms illegally in the shooters possession? They were registered to his mother who was either a firearms enthusiast or a straw purchaser. We personally have the responsibility to keep firearms out of the hands of noneligible persons. Yes, don't take your crazy cousin to the range.

Depending if you are right or left handed this is the best way to handle this. Facing the person step to their LEFT side. Take your RIGHT foot and place it behind their Right foot. With you RIGHT hand grab a hand full of hair, face or what have you. Drive the cut-in into the ground over your right leg. You may go to jail but the cut in will not do it again even if they survive. Now just joking.... Like Patriot I just let these AHoles slide.

Set backs , set backs, set backs.... I unchamber and chamber a round on two pistols about once a month maybe more. I ease the slide down and don't drop it from open lock. No set backs here. There's no reason to drop the slide from open lock on most pistols. Anyway dropping from open lock make my dogs bark.

There is a lot of value in what you are saying Jon.

Improved Cyl tube you'll be fine and shoot the best. You don't have a 20ga 870 as well do you? Because I have a spare 20ga rifled barrel.

That's the ticket. Just measure the width of your rib and BLUE locktite everything

Kiddo - Don't want to burst your bubble but even with a cantilever mount you really need to re- sight the shotgun if you remove the barrel. Tension on the barrel nut affects your point of impact. An 870 is not the worst of the culprits but it does affect it. If you want to dick around I have a rifled tube to lend you and they sell sights that clamp to your vent rib. You were hunting w/ Jon right? You won't see anything with him anyway...LOL If you promise to scare Jon's deer I'll lend you the scope mount and rifled tube...LOL Pick on Jon Day!!!

Hey Woody - If you want I have a single sided mount (steel or alum I forget) no drilling uses the action pins, rings and a China 4x scope that will get you by the rest of the season. Use an open choke tube like Imp Cyl and and forster slugs and you should get 3-4" @ 50yds 8-10 at 100yds which is your max range anyway. You can have it for a song...

Nick you're sooooo paternal since you got married....LOL

You're correct in my eyes. What about a "gift"

Harry - Their stories are lies and BS anyway.

Paid for up front, he held the gun until I could pick it up. On time and good guy.

I've dealt with two DBags on the forum. One was a lying Bag of S, back out gutless bastard. and One was a no show changed his mind, no call jerk. Now though maybe I should have, I didn't "-1" them. But I know who they are. One just used the forum like an old whore to sell his sh!t and isn't here anymore and one I think is just a flakey kid that needs to learn some responsibility. You got the dirty end of the stick and I hope to see an apology and explanation soon. But that's only two out of many.

Mastodon (a sponsor here) can do it. It's the matter of a spring kit and labor. There are varying degrees of trigger work that can be done, I suggest you go middle of the road. Tell Joe Frank sent you and I'll talk to him about it.