Matt

can be proven to be pre-ban you can have whatever capacity you can get. Is that the same here in NJ? are pre-ban magazines allowed no matter what the capacity?

long guns for comparable prices in NJ?

In Hoboken I would't be suprised if someone called the cops for someone walking down the street with a shipment of ammo.

Just wanted to get a box or 2 of home defense ammo

Ha thanks for the heads up, I think I might get some funny looks walking across Hoboken with those in tow...

discreet packaging? I pick up my UPS shipments across town and walk 10 blocks to my building so I would rather not draw unnecessary attention to myself with a big obvious box of ammo..

Follow up question to this (I have yet to buy a long gun so I dont really know the story yet) - since rifles are not registered in NJ, how would anyone be able to prove if it was the posters gun or his friends?

No I know that, im more asking what other companies besides S&W make NJ compliant ARs - when you go to any NJ gun shop, what are you likely to see? Do they buy them NJ compliant or do shops convert them themselves?

in most gun shops? Like I know the M&P 15 FT is popular here, any others?

I was actually just wondering about this the other day, don't know the answer though

Bullet Hole or just go to Dick's?

It depends. Do they have probable cause to search your vehicle? If no, they indeed do let you go. I would never have anything illegal in the car nor anything that would cause them to have probably cause - I always like to think I would refuse a search just to exercise my right to do so however I wonder if it would actually cause much more of a hassle then its worth. I have heard that sometimes they detain you until they can get k-9s out to sniff around your car, etc.

you refused a police officers request to search you car? I find it hard to believe they would just let you go. Anyone know what really happens in that situation?

Whats the deal with all these name changes / misspellings all of a sudden? what did I miss?

Im out of the loop, what are you referring to, M1A?

Its a good question. And, maybe this is a bit idealistic and whimsical of me to say, I don't think they would care. I pose no threat to any man or creature, nor do I ever say anything that would make people think otherwise. I'm quite unassuming, and do not make myself a target to be robbed either-- again not putting anyone in danger. I'm sure there are many firearms owners like this as well... and its not a matter of pride, but of tact. I know my rights, but I can respect my neighbors if they do not necessarily feel the same way. Its the reason why I don't clean my firearms outside in plain sight. Some may agree, some may not (the types that feel the need to broadcast their political views via bumper sticker for example), but maybe its food for thought for you? Im in agreement with you on this one, I guess my perceived notion that the state would prefer any of us not own guns is what makes me uncomfortable because of the simple idea that having something that someone in an authority position does not want you to have, no matter how legal, could be abused by the authority figure. I see where you are coming from though, I guess I just need to trust more in the written law and the freedoms it provides me

Sure, and to be quite honest you have bigger balls than I do. I dont doubt that even if arrested we would be vindicated as we are both law abiding citizens with nothing to hide, I am just uncomfortable with the cost and hastle of such an arrest.

Fair enough, but would you agree that, although legal, an AR is something the state would probably PREFER you not have?

Just buy the damn rifle... I plan on it. 10/22 first though

Simmer down sparky, all I'm saying is that most of the people that run this state would like to have you believe that guns are bad and that by owning them you are by nature doing something illegal. I dont think most would disagree that the state would probably disarm everyone in it if they could and they try to use fear to that end. Im not being "paranoid" or have "personal problems" im only intending to point out that alot of people dont just openly trust NJ police to know what the laws are. I find it shocking that you apparently believe every cop in NJ knows the firearm laws like the back of their hand and would never falsely arrest you for a gun they believe to be banned, even though it is not. I lived in a so called "free state" for 24 years and coming to new jersey there is an undeniable feeling here that they would like you to feel like you are a criminal if you own guns.

Haha no way, they really walk you out?

Fishing poles do not come in boxes. They come in tubes. Maybe, but how many average joes know that?

When you buy a gun at dicks is there even any way anyone would know you bought a gun? (ive never bought a long gun), do the boxes have a picture of the gun on them or something? I guess the shape of the box is pretty obvious but i guess it could be a fishing pole or something

I know this fear is totally UNFOUNDED, the post was more regarding the fact that it bothers me that the thought even crosses my mind because of the atmosphere toward guns here.

fear that if I buy an AR (legal, without evil features etc.) that even though it abides by the AWB if a cop were to see it I would be arrested and charged for having an illegal assault weapon even though it wasn't. I guess I just dont trust cops to know what is legal and what isn't and I dont want to be the test case for the AWB loopholes... this just occured to me this morning, and while I do plan to buy / build one soon it just bothers me that I even have to feel that way in my own state / country. Thoughts?