Matt

A 10/22 would be great for learning. Once it warms up a bit, I'm willing to point you downrange at Cherry Ridge with my rifles if you're so inclined. I'm not a pro but I know all the basics. The only fool is the guy that needs to learn how to shoot 1 second after he needs to know how to shoot. That would be great I would really appreciate it, and all of your costs for the day would be on me, of course.

I have been shooting handguns for a few years and own one, but for some reason i have never had the opportunity to shoot a rifle or shotgun... I would like to get into the market (with something easy like a 10/22) but dont want to make a fool of myself at the range by learning on my own, whats the best way to get my feet wet before diving in?

I'm not that familiar with the current SCOTUS issues - the last thing I remember is the motion to have CCW permits in one state valid in all other state but I thought that was already rejected? What do you mean by the "incorporation" one? any details are appreciated! The CCW bill was before congress but did not get the full 60 Senate votes which would have immunized it from fillibuster. Nothing to do with SCOTUS. Good read on 14th amendment and specifically incorporation... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth ... nstitution In a nutshell, the 14th amendment has been used since the civil war to apply a number of rights in the bill of rights to the States. 2A incorporation by 14th amendment would apply 2A rights to all States and not just to Federal enclaves such as DC. It's history is most notable in striking down racist State laws which did not recognize citizenship and rights of ex-slaves. SCOTUS decision in Heller vs DC established RKBA as an individual right, ending the BS about only Militias (National Guards) having said rights. The newer case still pending, McDonald vs Chicago, seeks to overturn Chicago gun ban on the basis of 2A application to States via 14A. Broadly speaking, such a decision would include the right to carry in all states since RKBA in 2A is one of a piece. All of this is my interpretation. I'm no lawyer and just giving my personal opinion only, standard disclaimer unclenunzie Thanks for the info this clears up alot - Can you explain further why this would have an effect on rights to carry? Couldn't the state still argue that they are already abiding by RKBA by allowing citizens to keep guns in their homes and that carry doesn't necessarily apply?

Yeah...... I agree I might not send it in..... Its not cheap, and I am afraid of getting turned down.... They dont accept NRA First Steps course.... and I only have 8 hours of SigSauer Academy courses under my belt. So if they go by the rules to the exact letter..... I would be screwed. I doubt I will take the chance right now.... I dont know about the requirements for the non-res permit but as far as the resident permit was concerned it wasn't difficult at all to meet the requirments. All i needed was the 10 hour NRA basic pistol course and as long as you are not a felon they will approve you (again, this is resident, im not sure how non-res works)

I actual have a "resident" CCW, I know it sounds weird but CT law states that if you move out of state you may keep your CCW as long as you continue to renew it

I'm not that familiar with the current SCOTUS issues - the last thing I remember is the motion to have CCW permits in one state valid in all other state but I thought that was already rejected? What do you mean by the "incorporation" one? any details are appreciated!

In a year or two my work situation is changing so that I will be living in NJ and working in south west Connecticut (long story). I can legally carry in CT - Does anyone know if it would be legal for me to keep a gun in a safe at work in CT? (my employer is ok with this) Or can I only keep a gun permanently at my residence in NJ? I realize this may be more of a CT law question but figured someone might know... The reason I ask is that the laws in NY dont make it easy to transport through state and it would be much easier to just keep a gun in CT and keep the rest at my resident in NJ.

The Connecticut state constitution (where I am originally from) sec. 15 states that "Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state." does NJ state constitution have any such similar clause (I cant seem to find anything)? If not, do you think this has any correlation to CT gun laws being much more lax than NJ?

What SCOTUS decision are you referring to? Can someone give me an overview?

Has anyone on this board actually applied for one (knowing that you would be denied) just for the sake of doing it?

I am legally allowed to own in NJ and in CT (CCW in CT as well) but the problem is NY is the ONLY state in the country that does not allow any transportation of firearms through the state without a permit (which is in direct conflict with federal law). I had a law school friend look into court cases on this matter and it seems that in general the outcome has been in favor of the person transporting (upheld by federal law even though it is denied through state law) but I dont want to be another trial and error case for this discrepancy. I would like to bring my gun to CT but it sounds like a bad idea. any experience?

is reasonably available to people in NJ?

Well thats quite a coincidence! I really like the people at Casos but it always seems their prices are much higher than Bullet Hole, what has your experience been with them? Not around tonight unfortunately but ill be in for a get together soon

No but I did buy my HK there, why do you ask?

I figured you would make your way over here (Silver Rain)! By the way, there is another thread on this topic in the "Politics in NJ and united states" sub board

Well your definitely right in that I certainly don't know anyone else in this town with a gun, but that being said, the police here didn't seem to have an attitude about applying for a permit or anything like that, in fact the detective was very pleasant to work with. It is a weird feeling though in that I know if any of my neighbors (I live in an apartment building) knew they would probably think I was doing something illegal! I was born and raised in CT (where I have an active CCW) so my views on guns are quite different then most around Hoboken.

Heh, I was going to mention the same thing. We're meeting this Thursday at 7pm if you wanna come out and say hi. http://www.njgunforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4865 I do shoot at the Bullet Hole but rarely have time to make it to the range so I don't know when the next time I will be out there is going to be, but will definitely meet up at some point!

Hello all, I was just wondering if there was anything similar to Calguns for all of us in NJ and found this! I look forward to contributing. Currently my collection only consists of a HK USP 45 but will be adding to the family soon.