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Nonsense. There are many. Maine doesn't even require a permit. handgunlaw.us Do your license map, but check the details for each state you are going to/through. BTW, I don't have Florida, and haven't looked into it much. But I believe DD214 counts for training. Many states (not sure about Florida) allow like $25 NRA classes for training requirements. Heck, NRA classes with live-fire training are like $50 or something.

There's nothing wrong with getting a Florida license NOW. It's a great license that allows carry in a lot of states. We can monitor the NH situation.

Contact their AG's office.

I named my last AR Caitlyn Jenner.

Yup. They usually feel like... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

The only place to get a gun question resolved once and for all in Jersey is the NJ supreme court. Lawyers can make informed predictions, some with a high degree of reliability, some more variable. But, like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. Heck, we even had a couple real doozies in PA where the courts are gun friendly. In Jersey, I would error on the side of caution. Or, discretion.

I like the cut of your jib

I was at a VA and they had a cop giving them out for free. And I was like, "Oooo, free." Then I realized I had no use for them and nobody I knew would want them, either, so I didn't take any.

Fascinating. So which is heavier, wet air or dry air?

If I was a Jersey resident, I would not be concerned. I'm not getting pulled over. If I do, cops are not searching my car. If they do they will find targets and information about the range in my back pocket. This type of thing is more likely to come up during an auto accident than out of the blue. NOT legal advice, but head to the range first.

New Jersey laws. But you are headed to the range on your way, so you are fine. And you are keeping your mouth shut and exercising your Fifth Amendment Rights under guidance from counsel, end, period. When is the last time a cop searched your car?

No, it doesn't. The people that wrote the law have said it doesn't. It only covers intervening states, not origin or destination. A diminishing minority of people on this forum believe it does. Nobody else anywhere does. Not even Maryland, where they have similar issues. If I want to go to a Walmart in PA without a permit, can I cross the border into NJ and then come back and be legal because I crossed a border? They discussed this when they were writing FOPA. You wanna take your chances, go ahead. I doubt a PA cop will give you any crap. But if he watches you walking to your car with a gun, with Jersey plates, and decides to pull you over, you are going to jail. "But I'm from Jersey" aint gonna cut it. You may or may not get off later. It's unlikely to have that problem, but that is the risk you are considering. In Jersey you will have the gun in your trunk (also illegal). In PA you will have the gun exposed on your hip. Why not just get a permit from some state to cover the more exposed portion of your trip?

You are not allowed to have a handgun in a car, even unloaded in the trunk, unless you are going to the range, etc. Unless you have a permit from ANY state. Walmart is not a listed exception.

No. Others (only here) will disagree. The people that wrote the law will not. Further, why would you be able to drive a handgun to a PA Walmart without a permit when I live in PA and cannot drive a handgun to a PA Walmart without a permit?

We are going through a lot of sequential hypotheticals here. First you get pulled over. Then you have your car searched. Most likely because you flapped your gums or were in an accident. But at the end of the day, that means the cop is suspicious, and I don't think roadside lawyering a dumb, anti-gun NJ cop (present company excluded)is going keep you out of jail for a few days or a week if he is kind enough to bother check your story and decide he doesn't buy it. Heck, perhaps you will even be prosecuted and the judge will direct that you cannot say or the jury cannot consider you were on the way to a range as an exception just like they did with Brian Aitken "moving" (even though he was guilty IMO). I think it's a reasonable suggestion. This is New Jersey.

Well, the gun is in your trunk in Jersey and so are the targets Write down the hours of the range you are headed to in PA and make sure it is open, print out directions and put in your back pocket where they are none of anybody's business unless there is trouble. When I get pulled over and the cop asks, "Where you headed?" I say my lawyer said 5th Amendment. Only come up once, though. In Jersey, of course.

If you have no carry permit, you cannot take a handgun to a walmart in PA by vehicle. Not even unloaded in the trunk. To and from range, etc. only. You could walk there from a range with it on your hip. If you have a permit from ANY state, you can carry loaded on your hip in the car. Stay out of Philly without a license actually recognized. As far as "unwanted attention" and "gauging the neighborhood" is concerned, complete nonsense. The only place people occasionally have issues is Philly, where the STATE laws are a little different (city gun laws are not enforceable). I have open carried for 8 years all over the eastern half of the state. Mostly in areas where the license plates are up to 20% NJ/NY and the clientele is soccer moms (I shop during the day). 99.5% of people don't notice, about .2% from Jersey give you a confused look and go on with their life, and about .3% come up to you and either thank you or ask questions. Nobody has said a word to me in months and nobody has ever given me a hard time. We sued the police in 2008 and by 2009 they started annual training informing police they could not stop a person or request ID for carrying a gun openly (outside of Philly). Every cop in PA has this training annually. I've had scores of cops notice my gun all over the eastern half of PA and none have said a word to me, although one gave me a head nod. I think they watch Youtube and think we are probably A-holes and decide they don't want to bother talking to us.

I have a pretty normal attached garage and it always seems to have a temp that is roughly the average of the day and night temp. I've never walked in there and saw my breath or felt hot. If that is your only solution, it's probably a good idea to add some form of dehumidifier to the safe just to be sure. People do it all the time. I would actually be more concerned how easily it could be seen and stolen from the garage.

Court losses can cause devastating consequences. PA had a court rule that from now on, PA residents cannot carry on out of state licenses. Nullifying not just one, but several of our laws. And that was not even the question at hand, they just decided to pull it out of their asses and legislate from the bench since it was tangentially related. But Jersey is so screwed already that it is probably not much of a gamble.

Good luck. Gonna need it.

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A recent court ruling is forcing them to change it. I doubt they will fight it but who knows.

Open Carry in PA - Keep in mind, you can only have a handgun in a car, even unloaded in the trunk, if you have a permit from ANY state or are going to the range, etc. One of our two crappy gun laws. We are working on it, but it may be a few years.

Yes. But not in Philly, and you need a permit from ANY state to have a handgun in the car except for going to the range, etc. Even unloaded in the trunk. So you really need some sort of permit to open carry from a practical standpoint. Conceal carry or Philly in public requires a reciprocal or honored license.

Grrrrrr.... herpes