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I'm pretty sure former Governor James McGreevey was gay. My reference was to his special friend in a government job appointed by McGreevy, which was in a senior security position. Among other positions. But G, I absolutely agree with you. You are right that our community hurts itself more than we know with inflammatory, angry, and often plain stupid rhetoric and behavior. We are in a very small minority in this state with the majority convinced that we are all gun toting maniacs with anger and psych problems. Lets not contribute any more to that perception, and maybe even try to change it. I for one will make more effort to not sound like a dumbass. Anyone else feel the same?

I wonder if it had dangerous hollowpoint armor piercing cop killer bullets.

I've seen that map before and cringe at labeling NJ as a "may" issue state. Unless you are a billionaire or having gay sex with the governor, this is a "no" issue state.

It might very well be the oil rig was a deliberate act of sabotage. But that article is pure unadulterated horseshit. Exactly what qualifies the writer, posting from his mother's basement, to declare the rig was so reliably designed, constructed and maintained that it is impossible for this to have been an accident? People love conspiracy theories. Somehow they find it more comforting than the idea we simply allowed such a catastrophic and avoidable fuckup.

Aha, finally found my new IDPA holser.

I'm glad they are well armed. Because those Harleys are slower than any zombie.

The problem here is, if you apply and get rejected you will most likely have difficulty getting any firearm related permit in the future. Every such application includes a question of whether you have ever been denied. Consult with a lawyer before proceeding.

He and Pat Robertson have quite a lot in common.

I can't complain about the timing at all. I really wanted the M&P 9L, but was torn about the magazines. Didn't want 10 rounds and was never fully comfortable with modified mags. Sure they'd be perfectly legal but I did not look forward to having to prove it to Officer Barney Fife. By lucky coincidence my permit came in yesterday, just in time to see your post. Any earlier and I probably would have bought something else that would have been a compromise. But now I get the exact pistol I want and don't have to stress about harassment over a modified magazine. Now all I have to do is get the pistol to go with the magazines I ordered. Thanks very much 67gtonut for the intel!

Finally got my FID after 3 months. Imagine my surprise when the detective hands me a lightweight POS cardboard card, typewritten, and asks for my fingerprint but no photo! I never cease to be amazed by the lameness of our state. I thought this must be the most counterfeit-able government issued ID on the planet, easier to fake than a community college ID. Then I realized the sheer genius anti-forgery strategy here: who even has a typewriter other than official state agencies? Oh yes, and the part about how this thing is so much bigger than any other ID or credit card and does not fit in a wallet - that's brilliant. All the more likely you might forget it one day so they get a reason to fuck with you. Anyway, at least I have the damned thing now.

Holy cannoli, I just ordered some as well! I guess I'll also have to re-examine my position on the existence of Santa Claus!

There's only one way to find out. Call the detective in charge of permits and ask.

If you don't mind, what is this part # of which you speak? And where did you get that from?

I keep seeing rumor that Smith & Wesson will introduce 15 round magazines for the full size M&P 9mm's. I just called S&W customer service and the person I spoke with never even heard of it. Can anyone point to a source for this? Or should I just keep looking out for Bigfoot to deliver them in his flying car?

I would strongly consider shipping it to yourself by UPS or Fedex, or through a local FFL to an FFL at your destination. There is too much that can go wrong between NY and NJ firearms laws. Check the post viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6883 for an example of a guy following the law but still was jailed and spent 3 years in a legal fight to prove he was innocent.

Thanks everyone. I'll go with with either a Comptac or Bladetech OWB belt holster. There will already be enough reason to laugh at me without drawing my holster from my pants.

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I took a trip down to Lakewood Friday afternoon to check out Brick Armory and Shore Shot and to try some rentals. I wouldn

Thank goodness, NY is finally taking steps to protect people form deadly use of salt. After all, someone has to protect the children. I wonder if you can now use deadly force in self defense against a guy carrying a pretzel? http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/09/1000- ... new-york-r

Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm just at the beginning of my selection process and only recently applied for my FID and purchase permit so I expect to have plenty of time to decide. Hopefully I will be able to rent or borrow the guns on my list before the final decision. So the answer is, any gun that comes standard with more than 15 rounds is going to be off my list. I just don't want to screw around with hard-to-find special NJ magazines or having to modify them any time I want replacements. And 10 rounds in a compact or single stack would be fine, but in a full size 9mm it seems like an necessary compromise.

I'm inclined to go with the P30L anyway. But I was curious how people address this issue in general for a pistol that comes standard with 17 rounds. I would consider a factory 15 round magazine if it were easily available, but would not want to get involved with a modified or aftermarket brand of questionable reliability. So the G17 and M&P FS are out for me. Thanks.

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New member checking in from Bergen County. I own a pistol that I bought in the early