tommy3rd

I plan on bringing my new toys so I will be getting a rifle lane.

so what makes that any different than a mossberg pistol grip shotgun bought straight from the factory? that's not shoulder fired but it's still a shotgun, right?

isn't that essentially a "sawed off shotgun" by NJ's legal definition? then it follows it with: "No person shall sell or acquire a sawed-off shotgun."

If i remember corrctly, class said separated by a case (firearm and ammo), need not be locked if in the trunk. So yes, when I go to the range I have the guns and the ammo stored separately, but both are not locked. I use the plastic hard case that came with the gun, and I put my ammo in a separate zippered bag, also unlocked.

I would pay just because there's no other option right now if I wanted to carry.

http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_trans.html Locked container. Doesn't mention what type of lock. I think that's in Evan's book. Learned that lock thing while taking a class at the Bullet Hole.

So, having a different opinion than you makes one not know or understand the constitution? And who said anything about justifying the bill? I disagree with the price point like everyone else, but what other choice does one have right now if one wishes to carry? Move to another state? Change careers and go into law enforcement/security? I would like to know the answer. How are you able to carry?

Yes, for the most part of new jersey the waiting period is atrocious. There's only a few towns out of 500+ municipalities that will get you the permit in less than 30 days. So, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of folks here suggest that you get multiple permits each time you apply.

You'll run into problems explaining the "lawful purpose" they tag on the statutes. Unless you're going hunting, they'll ask what kind of job you have where you need a knife with a gigantic blade. Chefhunter might get away with it, but I don't know who else will. LEOs have the flexibility to charge you with something and let the court settle it.

Here: http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=950612&Depth=4&TD=WRAP&advquery=2C%3a39-1%20%20Definitions&headingswithhits=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&rank=&record=%7B1A38%7D&softpage=Doc_Frame_Pg42&wordsaroundhits=2&x=34&y=12&zz= 2C:39-3. Section e. Certain weapons.

When they say locked it doesn't have to be a padlock. If it snaps together it's considered locked.

Every time you buy something at cabela's, go to the range, eat out, you spend $20 here and there. Hell, I've spent $500 this year just on ammo.. Next thing you know, you're at $500. I'm already thinking about what I can cut out from my expenses if this passes and I get a chance to finally carry.

As long as you complete the course, you're good. I have a feeling the process will be just like getting a driver's license, only more expensive. Until there's a better option, I'll take what I can get.

Yup,I did. Negative on the purchase.

I'd say get a bigger safe. just add, add, add, to your collection. Forget about selling stuff!

One thing is for sure - the mag capacity will have to be reduced from 35 to 15. Does that look "substancially identical" to one of the banned weapons we have? I want a sig556 pistol and I don't think anyone will sell me one in jersey.

I just look at it as one less handgun that I can buy. I personally would be okay with $500 a year, as long as it's "shall issue". I will not put a price limit on my family's and my own safety. That to me is better than what we have right now. If and when it passes, we can argue about the price later.

I looked into it briefly and decided it's too much of a freakin pain to do it. From checking zoning laws, getting a permit to do business, securing the home/location, notifying the chief of police...I'll just give my business to some of the guys here.

So, how does this go? What time? Is this a public range or are we getting guested in? How much? What can we shoot? If carpooling, where's the meeting place? After all that, I can't make it the 30th, I already have plans. Lol.

There's also a gun range in Paterson, NJ. I'll only go there if I'm with my LEO friend, and only in broad daylight.

relax, I ain't abandoning ship, even though you forgot about me..

One thing i know for sure, the way some people drive here in Jersey ( and everywhere else), I don't ever want to see a nuclear powered car! I would go for nuclear powered charging stations to recharge electric powered vehicles.

See the posts on century arms here: http://forum.pafoa.org/rifles-42/10688-century-arms-ak-47-a.html

Exemptions are good if you have the MONEY to pay for the stuff you're buying. I've used up all my funds and then some. That's it for me for the year. My last $1100 and 3 permits are spoken for. Gotta wait till my next tax refund.

if i had an extra permit and money i'd be all over that. as it is right now, i cant buy it until next year lol