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With Murphy looming in the wings clenching his hands to impose as many restrictions on NJ gun owners, it's inconceivable a range with a gun store in the same building has no NRA affiliation or NRA membership requirement. Is there any association with ANJRPC? All that should have been addressed earlier but, I suppose its more of a range than a " club ". I suppose some clubs like OBRPC, Central Jersey, Citizens, South River, Monmouth etc. was established by people who have a love of the sport and not concerned about profits. So if I have this right this club was created by business men who are primarily motivated by profit and not concerned about the NRA, Murphy's gun grab and restrictions. Nothing wrong with making a profit but that club thing is BS. If you just want a place to sling ammo down range it seems like the right place. Annual fees, a store , and classes being offered for a fee. Drop the Club in its name and replace it with range.

I noticed there's no mention of being an NRA member before joining UHGC, unless it's there in fine print somewhere. Most clubs list that as a requirement, I just find it kind of unusual. Do they have any affiliation at all with the NRA?

Has anyone here have experience with Cabin Firearms. The website didn't list their hours and I was wondering what you guys think overall. Thanks

If a NJ resident holds a non resident CCW and if the NR act passes, I don't believe it would help a NJ resident to carry legally in NJ. According to most things I've read you would need to have a CCW issued to you in your native state. It would be a plus for legal NJ gun owners if they can ride on the back of this bill but, I don't believe NR is the gateway for NJ residents to be issued a CCW for NJ.

I understand your point but, in actuality they hit a snag as soon as they started digging that’s why the building was elevated. The early delays were obvious.The lower level was impossible. My main point was I give Recoil Range credit for not taking money up front till they open and who had more delays than them. I just think the people who paid $400 up front should get compensated in one form or another.

When the delays started they should have stopped the pre construction early membership that’s a fact. The people that paid up front and waited this long should get some form of compensation regardless of the reasons for the delay.

The fact that Recoil range is not accepting pre construction membership fees proves to me their more legit and not looking to play with other peoples money. I think it's total BS that so many people prepaid for UHGC and were strung along for almost 4 years. First they hit a high water table so now the whole building had to be raised, then they go from propane to natural gas heat because they didn't know there was a natural gas line available. These are legitimate reasons but, who surveyed this property before building started. You can't even build a patio or a pool behind a residence in this state without PSE&G approves digging. Sources tell me the range will operate in the red for at least 3 or 4 years but, that's the range end of it, while some will profit handily.

Any updates on the Recoil range, it seems to be stalled. The other range might be opening in the near future. $400 for indoor only range, you would expect this place to be top notch. Time will tell but, their going to have to lower that fee. They claim they want to top off at 3000 members. If they can get 3000 people to pay $400 for indoor only range then I guess I'm missing something.

Don't hold your breath.

How about The Union Hill Gun Club what a joke that has become. Three years and still counting and no problem taking money for membership with people waiting all that time. It's been one delay after another. Although every range in NJ is a welcome sight, this one seems like one big rip off. I hope those guys that paid already get compensated for the wait time. Word travels fast and it looks like their off to a lousy start.

Passed by recently and saw some work being done. Does anyone have anymore info?

Jersey law as written says "justifiable need" to be granted a CCW. NR states you have to be eligible, aren't we all eligible if we have a clean record? I believe this is where the conflict will begin.

Even enlist in the Military.

If NR happens to pass and NJ is forced to comply and recognize NJ residents with non - resident CCW's they can claim you need a CCW from your home state which excludes most of us. If that doesn't work they'll charge a high application fee for CCW unless the fee is Federally controlled. Trump is so busy defending himself , plus there's so many pressing issues, you never here much about NR. Fortunately for most of the country they're not doing that bad with the CCW issue they still have maintained their 2A rights much better than us. I really think shooters that reside in states like NJ are clinging to the idea NR will help them with the CCW issue, especially if you have a non resident CCW.... I.E. Florida, Utah. Tomorrow the Senate votes on the motion to proceed with just addressing healthcare. At first the President should have started with tax reform it might have been an easier issue.

So effective beginning on November 1st, you will have to be 21 yrs old to buy tobacco related products in NJ. Another useless law passed by the state legislature. I'm not a smoker , but I think the new law is a waste. The State Senate must be bored, this is a priority? Jeez, Murphy hasn't been sworn in yet. So as far as NJ recognizing National Reciprocity for NJ gun owners with non resident CCW's......

I supported Republicans right down the row in the last election. Give evidence of how this Republican house works as a cohesive party, because all we see is division and lack of vision. When the Republicans won the house back several years ago where was the opposition to Obama, they gave him a blank check they didn't have to fund Obama care. John Boehner was weak then replaced by Paul Ryan who made Trump squirm for his endorsement and we have good old Mitch McConnell an establishment fixture in the Senate that was never on board with Trump and appears to still not be on board. It's plain as day these guys don't want an outsider to be successful and up stage them. Only in regards to gun issues because that's what this forum is, these are the people who are going to straighten out the convoluted gun laws in this country? Sorry, just don't see it happening and if being realistic is considered sniveling there's no point in a discussion if one can't be intellectually honest.

I don't expect anything from Washington. I'm old enough to know that a candidate will say anything to get elected and that your judged by actions and not what you say. If your naive enough to buy into political rhetoric that's your choice. I've supported Republicans and the NRA for many years and I've only seen the NJ gun issue get more scrutinized over the years. The NRA flex their muscles in gun friendly states but, in NJ and other anti gun states their influence is weak.

Fine the 2nd amendment, then where was it all these years?

Nothing to be sorry about 3/4 of the country have CCWS their not losing sleep on this issue they think states like NJ have ridiculous gun laws, just have a conversation with a gun enthusiast from out of state. It's not only about Trump, it's the party that can't seem to work together. I supported Trump and I know things don't happen over night. I think he will get overwhelmed with inside party politics it will consume most of his agenda. Another factor is his own party appears to not be very enthralled with him almost as if their just tolerating him till his time is up. He's an outsider they don't want him. The NR issue will be left in the dust. I feel that Trump ran more as a populist than a republican, and he has never been a conservative if you look into his past political views. I think he was keyed into the NRA and that NR was a big issue with them. Fake news, CNN, the liberal media, after awhile that's going to wear thin. The republicans had 7 years to come up with a alternative health care plan and now they look clueless. There's much bigger issues than NR, but this is a gun forum and if we can't discuss it here where else can we go. NR never going to happen.

I think national reciprocity is a pipe dream. Trump obviously does not have much support from his own party after seeing how much trouble he has getting things done. Also he has recently certified the Iran deal where money was given to them by the previous administration. Yes, he told the NRA when he was running for President about all the great ways he'll support the 2nd amendment.Judging how he's capitulating on other issues I feel the reciprocity issue is never going to be taken seriously. Lets face it there's about 36 states that are already gun friendly they have no major reason to give NR much attention. In states like NJ people cling to the glimmer of hope that if they have a non resident CCW license they one day will have legal CCW in NJ. In NJ people are taking these non resident classes which might be a good idea if you travel a lot. Unfortunately it doesn't really help much for the average NJ shooter. What I see is another profiteering industry cashing in on people who are hoping maybe one day to see NR. Do the research, to have a legal non resident CCW good for the surrounding states you'll need at least 3 licenses. The only people making out on this are the people giving the classes and the states your paying for non resident CCW.

With the opposition President Trump has from his own party on many issues, I think this NR bill is going to die a slow death. You can expect opposition from the Dems that's a given but, the establishment Republicans really aren't on board with many of the Presidents views. Even some of the more conservative types such as Rand Paul, Tom Cotton, Mike Lee don't like the idea of federal control of gun rights. It's easy to feel that way if you're a resident of a state that is more gun tolerable. In NJ we try to maneuver our way around this maze by trying to get non resident ccw licenses just to feel that we accomplished something even if we don't travel that much. Thank you Governor Christie for probably giving us Murphy on a silver platter. This state is so entrenched with liberal legislators and knee jerk reactive politicians I just don't see a very bright future for gun owners in this state. A republican President with a majority house, senate and supreme court if things don't loosen up for us now it never will. I suppose this will be viewed as a very negative outlook but, hey I'm willing to listen to anyone or group that can convince me it's going to get better.

Many people paid for pre-construction memberships for this club and have been waiting 2 years longer than expected. I think this will have an effect on membership renewals and you can't blame them. These people should be compensated for waiting this long enough is enough. I respect the owners of Recoil Range for not accepting membership fees till they are certain of their situation.

At least Recoil Range did not accept pre construction membership money and then wait..The other Monroe range took money and people have been waiting over 2 years, not right. I had a feeling the Union Hill club would open sooner anyway(politics) if and when,

I'm considering joining CJRPC, is there a way to visit the club as a non member ? I would appreciate any opinions on the club. Thank You

I went through the same crap a few months ago and, it's not worth the aggravation. I couldn't recommend them because of this.