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Ruger's Scout Rifle is setup for both rear-mounted conventional or forward-mounted (EER) scopes. The receiver bridge still accepts Ruger's proprietary scope ring/mounts in addition to the forward Picatinny rail. http://www.ruger.com...e/features.html

I believe Reed Exhibitions is the same exhibitor of the SHOT Show in Las Vegas this week. (Look on their events list.) Odd? "Blame it on the Fudd's?" I don't know about that one. Want to stick together? Boycott the SHOT Show. http://www.reedexpo....s/events-list/# http://www.reedexpo....3D25%26rpp%3D12 Eastern Sports FB page with commentary left by many: https://www.facebook...nSports?fref=ts Call them and email them and let them know how you feel. I did this morning. [email protected] Reed Exhibitions USA 383 Main Avenue Norwalk, CT 06851 Tel:1-203-840-4800 Fax:1-203-840-5805

Someone on the NY Highpower Forum said that 'what Cuomo just pulled in NY will only embolden Washington D.C..' Joe is saying, "We've got them right where we want them."

Good guys can only load seven, bad guys can load 10.

The database was never made public or published in its entirety until 2010 on the website whospackingny.org. Under the Freedom Information Act, anyone could have gone to the county registrar office and inquired for such. I suppose if handgun owners didn't want that information public, they should have read NY Penal Law 400 before purchasing a handgun, for it's written in there in black and white that handgun registration and what style of permit they acquire is public information.

I received more correspondence from the people at SCOPE than NYSRPA. SCOPE's webpage detailing vote: http://scopeny.org/

I don't understand your comment. While the information was public, publishing it was borderline-questionable. Let's just say there was no logical reasoning behind doing such other than to raise an eyebrow. When the Journal News published the same information in their paper a couple weeks ago, their were lambasted in the news.

It was Greg Ball who called for the suspension of the website that posted in 2010 a listing all the handgun permit holders in New York. He's a stand-up guy; the type that New York is sorely lacking.

They have every right to be. Who came up with this bleeping idea is beyond me: "Section 38 of the bill amends Penal Law � 265.00(23) to ban all large capacity magazines that have the capacity to hold more than ten rounds of ammunition including those that were grandfathered in under the original assault weapons ban and creates a new ban on magazines that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition. Magazines that can hold more than seven rounds but not more than ten rounds and are currently possessed will be grandfathered in, but may only contain seven rounds of ammunition. Exceptions are made for large capacity magazines that are curios or relics." So you can have a ten-round magazine, but you can only load seven rounds in it? Are they kidding me?

Yep. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/nyregion/new-york-legislators-hope-for-speedy-vote-on-gun-laws.html

"Assault weapons -- defined as any rifle with a "military style" feature, such as a bayonet or a telescoping stock -- that are currently owned would be grandfathered and would have to be registered with the state. Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds." Wonder who's going to start the business of converting 10/22 magazines to 7-rounders?

If you want your head to spin before bedtime, read this. This is what will be put to vote tonight: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013

BC - You may have seen this already. (This video just emphasizes to me how important it is to know where the muzzle is pointed, not so much the trigger as the problem.)

It could be something as silly as a missing O-ring, or the gas parts assembled incorrectly when someone put it back together. . Manual - http://stevespages.c...n_1100-1187.pdf

It won't be the first time for Remington. I participated in one. Remington settled a class action lawsuit back in 1995 for $31.5 million for their shotgun barrels. If you had a 12 ga. shotgun made by Remington between the years 1960 and 1995, barrels on the guns were reputed to be made with inferior steel. The scope of the suit accounted for about 10 million barrels. Those who had sent in their warranty registration cards after purchase were notified by mail that they were eligible. I participated because when the suit claimed the barrels were "inferior" and might need to be replaced, that caught my attention. Funny thing was, your barrel wasn't replaced, it wasn't even deemed defective, and when you received your check after the settlement, you were just cautioned to fire SAAMI-sensible loads in it and exercise caution (I.E. common sense, check for obstructions, etc.) The attorneys walked away with something like $13.5 million. The 700 trigger issue is old news. It's resurfacing again?

You are correct, it was the first time anything like this happened. Cooler heads prevailed for the idea and premise was illogical. This was also an economic decision. Someone whispered in the ear of the legislators and explained to them that by banning muzzleloaders would eliminate the deer hunting muzzleloader season entirely, some zones which are now as long as 62 days for ML, which means there would be shortfall of money coming in to the NJDoF&W, which means less licenses sold, less deer zone permits sold, less rifle permits sold; all sales that affect the money the State needs to maintain the program as well as what they can qualify for in Federal grants to fund other programs. Add into that the number of days hunters spend afield, which invariably means money pumped back into the economy at sporting goods shops, diners, gas stations, Dunkin Donuts, etc. In addition, the permit muzzleloader season accounts for about 13%-15% of the annual deer harvest each year. Sure they could make up alternatives for that season to continue the harvest but that group are others are still stuck in old world traditions and won't budge on some issues. It does come down to money.

Well said usnmars. Yes GlassFanta, the 60's were interesting if not trying times. We had change on all sides, a few high-profile assassinations, a war, the civil rights movement, the "turn on, tune in, drop out" generation, The Weather Underground and SDS bombings, etc.

Another from Bergen County here. Welcome!

You certainly can't blame the Elmer Fudd hunters and their shotguns. And while Fudd's are not helpful to the cause, they are not the problem in this state. In 1966, there were approximately 6,959,650 residents in N.J. Roughly 3% (actually 2.87%) were true Elmer Fudd's; hunters who most likely were myopic or passive and sat by and/or weren't vociferous enough in their distaste of the '66 legislation. I suppose their Fudd-hunting mindset and failure to participate in a cause was ambivalence and may have been based on the fact that handguns, rifles, even slugs, were banned for hunting at that time; so it might be easy to understand their jaded and tunnel-vision thought process. But what were the other 97%, those non-hunter Fudd's, the rest of the populace doing/saying in defiance at that time while their Constitutional right was trampled asunder? I suspect their silence was deafening as well. Not to worry though, those Elmer Fudd's are dying off every day. Based on last week's published 2012 hunting license sales in N.J. that I posted on the NJH forum this week, resident hunting and fishing license sales numbers were up over 2011's numbers, but resident firearm hunter numbers dropped again. Elmer Fudd's and their shotguns are dwindling. In the last five years, resident firearm license sales have dropped 16.7%. Less than 1% (.96%) of New Jersey residents pick up a bow or firearm and buy a license in order to hunt today. Not to worry though about the drop in firearm hunters, the sales in bow hunting licenses have increased; resident bow licenses have gone up 12.4%, and Sr. bow (65+) licenses have gone up a whopping 62.8% in the last five years! Looks like the Elmer Fudd's are taking up bow hunting! It’s the Fudd’s who don’t go to a sportsmen’s show that you have to win over.

I agree with Lunker, Browning has never put their name on a lemon. I feel for you and your Versamax. The Versamax had QC problems for a while after its introduction. (I think it was recalled after only a handful had been sold.) Remington has struggled for a while to make a good shotgun since their 870 & 1100, which still soldier on. The 11-87 is nothing more than an embellishment of the 1100. Since 1973, Remington hasn't made an innovative shotgun (other than enhancements of the 1100 or 870) that they've put to market that were sales champs and/or died because they were plagued with problems. Ever see any of these Remington's around today? These were their attempts at O/U's: Mod. 3200, Peerless, 396, 300, & 332? Or the SB Trap Model 90, or semi-auto's 11-96 & 105CTI? And now the Versamax seems plagued with minor problems. A lot of shotgun double-dribbles here. I don't know of many Browning failures, or many Beretta failures either if we want to highlight the other "B" company. Wayne Leek's designs, the 700 & 1100 are still around and doing fine after half a century.

Part of yesterday's state of the state by Cuomo: http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=18174071 Nothing has been passed 'yet.'

When you have 9 00-buck pellets, that's very few, hence the patchy patterns and more pellets on the fringe than centered. In the standard 9-pellet 00-buck 12 ga. load, there are three layers of three pellets stacked accordingly for proper shot orientation. The stacking continues with 12 and 15 pellet loadings of the same 00-buck pellet size in 12 ga. The principle behind why you stack buckshot pellets so that loads pattern densely: the greater the angle of surface contact between two pellets, the greater the tendency those pellets will travel at an angle to each other. In other words, any order given to the buckshot inside the hull will reduce the amount of random influences that may affect the pellet's straight flight. With small buckshot pellets, the greater number of pellets makes up for a loss of pattern density, larger pellets magnify "patchiness" making holes in the pattern look very bad. ALL shotshell loads perform this way though. Fringes on the pattern are caused by pellets that lose their sphere shape because of setback during firing, damage through the forcing cone, or stress from the choke. The pellets in the center that are the most rounded tend to fly the straightest. As shotshell loads became more sophisticated, ammo makers introduced buffering mixtures that they would sift into the case, filling the voids between the pellets. Another method was increasing pellet hardness with a higher antimony count, or pellets were plated with copper or nickel. As demand for tight patterning loads grew, sophisticated wads like Federal's Flite Control wad were introduced. For any that are interested, look for the book "Reloading for Shotgunners" or BPI's "Buckshot Loading III" on the 'net; there is a lot of info documented if you want to reload your own buckshot loads and/or just to read the science behind how some loads work better than others.

I loaded the #4's for coyote & fox hunting in NY. I think it would have the edge over Hevi-T which is the preferred favorite & maximum size load in NJ. (#4buck=.24 cal. vs.T steel or lead=.20 cal.)

He's becoming larger than life.

That choke is "CYLINDER" in constriction. At 30' you can expect an average extreme spread of about 9". A tighter choke would reduce the size. However, you have to pattern different loads for results to determine what is best for your intended purpose. Different loads using different shot sizes, different hardness of shot, along with either unbuffered or buffered buckshot will all produce different results. As an example: my handloads of #4-buck will pattern within 7" @ 21' through a fixed Imp. Cyl. choke. The core or majority of the pattern will impact within 5" with a few flyers on the fringe opening it up to 7". Your results may be different than mine with the same load.