siderman

My safe dr is covered with them and they're all used. I like them just fine, never fell or came loose. The entire back is velcro not just a strip so it gets good solid adhesion even with a heavy loaded 1911. And the built-in mag pouch lets me know i can grab any semi and have two full mags from the get go. Also have a bunch of the dbl mag pouches ready to go too, good way to use up the little spaces on the dr/walls.

I think the arguement Nappon was putting forth wasnt the mag being considered a loaded gun by itself but rather having a loaded mag in whatever proximity to a empty gun would somehow qualify the gun as loaded. Ridiculous yes but like you said - we,ve been warned that the state will resort to the absurd to prosocute. Picture this courtroom scenario- the lawyer for the defendent has on display a empty gun on the counter. He asks a trusted officer of the court to check/clear it. Having done that the lawyer asks the officer "can that gun in its current condition discharge a round?" of course not its not loaded. Next a loaded mag is placed on the table near the gun and the same question is asked. Same answer- its not loaded. Now, how a judge or jury interpets this "obvious" lesson in physics here is another story. But the poor bastard defendent has already spent mucho $$$ and time, loss of reputation, work, possible jail time etc trying to get to the moment just presented in court.... and i think that somewhere in NY law maybe hunting by laws, what ever that the loaded mag near the is actually considered loaded so.......

got the same deal 2 weeks ago. went back2 mins later to post here and was gone 12 mins from slickguns post.

my gut is currently questioning that egg salad sandwich from lunch....stay tuned lol!

July 4 is coming.....

"All firearms in NJ are illegal" prior to the exemptions. Can someone point that out where its written in NJ law/code/statute etc? I may have seen it at one time and certainly have heard it enough but cant seem to find it whenever this topic comes up.

you're not thinking this thru...if he's in jail he's not a threat.....application denied! j/k, sort of...

"it is not reasonable to think a bullit will stop a truck so there for your app is denied." just an excerpt from your future court ruling....

was there today and saw that they were forming for cement floors at the 300 bench line. supposedly also on schedule is the same at the pistol range and I think the 50/100 was mentioned too. They're installing conduit in the cement so they can be heated in the winter and each port will offer a coin operated machine to moniter the heating. For every bullseye you get a free 15 min heat credit. Ok kidding about the bullseye thing. And the heat.

so this decision is one of the 3-5%, its refreshing to know there are judges who actually want their decision to matter. thankyou judges

dont need no stinking cover. my weber sits outside naked and proud for almost10 yrs and still looks good and fires right up. well maybe not after a downpoor but toss in a match,poof!

To the OP's question about whether "justifiable need expired". We should know on Monday. The administrative code gets re-adopted every 7 years. It expired on May 12th. The proposed changes were posted a couple of months ago and there was a 60 public comment period that ended on February 13th. Notices of re-adoption are published in the NJ Register every 2 weeks. It was not in May 4th edition. It may have been readopted in the last 2 weeks. We will know on Monday when the new edition comes out. borrowed the above quote from another thread- This reminds me, wasnt one of those admin codes about the NJSP re-wording the paperwork requirements to allow them to circumvent the law on extra paperwork by saying itsfor the common good or some other ambiguous wording? kind of flys in the face of this so called binding court decision....interesting

not sure about correcting you but the below excerpt from Nappons release implies that the "publishing" is the binding qualifier but other than this IDK.... Both Perez and McGovern, however, were not “published” and, therefore – while informative to other police departments regarding how they should behave – the decisions were only officially binding upon those two cities.

Thankyou for that info. but this whole publishing thing still odd. Where does it get published to that makes it a binding decision (law?) and why would other simular court decisions not be published? Seems like arbitrary law enforcement w/o the publishing.

This is actually the perfect instance for CC to back up his claim about trying to fix the 2A here w/o the demorats impeding his so-called efforts. All the hard work is already done via 3 court decisions (at least) in major citys. he just needs to tell his AG/NJSP to finalize this stuff with a written memo to all the states juridictions. Sounds easy enough but I doubt he's even aware of whats going on here.

This is a link to the ANJRPC announcement. At the bottem of it is a link to a release by Evan Nappon about it. Note how he says it is binding statewide because this case was "published" and thats why the Jersey City and Paterson cases were not. IDK what that means but read it for yourself. https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/anjrpc.site-ym.com/resource/resmgr/Alerts/05-14-2015_No_Additional_For.pdf

they're back http://www.pop-n-glo..._9.html?AffId=2 coupon- slickguns

Sooner or later a courts decision has to become the law of the land but apperently it hasnt reached that judicial level yet, Jersey City is appealing the same ruling against them. Business as usuall.

8 in the eve

had about 25 when we left about 8:00 and saw 3-4 other guys carrying buckets too lol

Excactly! cant wait to see how leo and military react to the trade show offering this smart crap...... oh and I like how CC said the demorats have hampered his ability to expand 2A rights lol, must have missed his press release of fixes !

dont forget to add on to the overall price the shipping, ffl fee and of course the nics fee which youpay anyway. can also try the price request here on the forum, maybe a local dealer can be competitive for you and keep the money here.

I pumped gas one summer back in the 70's and the only training i got was how to drop money in the safe. May have been the best summer of my life too in regards to meeting up with the ladies lol. Including one who was a model in Cosmo...We have just about the cheapest gas prices around and they pump for you, win. And dont think the prices will go down w/o the attendents, new taxes would take care of that. Not to mention it employs a lot of people across the state albiet low paying.

Yup- was a dickhead move by Mr Roubian, could've been a bit more discreet.

these NRA calls are prob from a marketing firm that was hired and dont know a thing about anything thats actually going on