Steve_G

Stop trying to confuse me with the facts!

Be careful. All that negative talk about the poor disadvantaged people in cities like Newark, Camden, Elizabeth, etc. is going to lead to restrictions on the first amendment. You can't say or write anything that shines a negative light on the disadvantaged and repressed people of our inner cities. I can see it now. It's for our own good after all.

Mastadon Just more reason not to believe anything they tell you at the LGS.

Really?

Here's mine

Make sure you go try it on for size first. I know the XD45 is pretty thick, I'm sure the XDM is as well.

How is it more beneficial legally to inform them? Do you really believe a criminal will tell the truth if they survive? It could cause them to run but, I don't want them to run. My goal is to have them kiss the hardwood and wait until the boys in blue show up with the shiny bracelets. As far as them shooting first, I don't intend to say anything until they are in my sights. That wont give them much of a chance to shoot first.

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Hillarious. I'm calling the ACLU to file a complaint!

The one thing about that article that really gets me..."The suspect, described as an approximately 20 year-old white male, was arrested and taken into custody". If the suspect had been any other race, it would not have been mentioned.

Must be one of those Hollywood laws. The terrified homeowner always says "I have a gun". BG comes in my house the only thing he will hear is a loud boom, right before a .45 Goldot hits him in the chest. I don't understand why anyone would give away their location or give the BG a chance to shoot first.

I think I'm going to start mowing the lawn with the P220 in a thigh holster and the AR slung across my back. Just for kicks. My one neighbor would probably join me, the other is a staten island transplant, that could be fun.

I posted this in the handguns section as part of my quest for a sub compact 9. Just thought they deserved a post here as well. It was just one positive visit but, looks like maybe they are trying to change their rep. I have never been much of a fan of NJ Firearms Guild, was never made to feel comfortable there. Well, looks like they have a couple new guys working there now. One of them, Rob, was very helpful and seemed to enjoy playin with the guns as much as I did. I was pleasantly surprised, especially since I told him from the start, I was there to look at these guns and see which ones fit my hand the best. I made it clear that I was just narrowing it down and then I would have to shoot the ones that I liked. In other words, there would be no sale today. He understood and was very helpful. Enough so that I may even give them a shot at the sale once I reach my final deciscion.

REVOLUTION part deux

A** Kissing not required. (but it doesn't hurt). I have noticed that though. That ridiculous paper does get their attention. $50 is fair. It keeps me from driving all over the place for the best deal. And I avoid shipping and tranfer fees from buying online.

As long as they come within $50, they will get the deal. I do prefer to support the LGS. In the past I have had real attitude problems from them. I keep going back beacause they do have a nice selection. Now, when I do go to purchase, if I'm greeted with attitude or ignored, well, that's a different story. Hopefully, they are making an effort to change their rep.

Thanks, I saw that. I think my mind is pretty much made up though. The PPS would have to really suck to not end up in my safe.

No. They had a DB380 in stock. They had a DB9 but it had been sold. That and the Sig P290 were the only 2 I didn't get to check out.

I spent about an hour today fondling some of these sub compact 9's. I went in with 9 models on my list and they had 7 in stock. At this point I have it narrowed down to 2. The Walther PPS and the Kahr PM9. I need to shoot them both to really make up my mind. The PPS felt perfect in my hand and the only negative I could find was the mag release. Nothing wrong with it, just different. The Kahr actually felt a little small but, the 7 round mag would fix that. Both had really nice triggers. Just a matter of how I shoot them. On a side note. I have never been much of a fan of NJ Firearms Guild, was never made to feel comfortable there. Well, looks like they have a couple new guys working there now. One of them, Rob, was very helpful and seemed to enjoy playin with the guns as much as I did. I was pleasantly surprised, especially since I told him from the start, I was there to look at these guns and see which ones fit my hand the best. I made it clear that I was just narrowing it down and then I would have to shoot the ones that I liked. In other words, there would be no sale today. He understood and was very helpful. Enough so that I may even give them a shot at the sale once I reach my final deciscion.

No kidding. It even states that in N.J.A.C. 13:54-1.4. Unfortunately, they still do it. g) An applicant for a handgun purchase permit who possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card, or who has previously obtained a handgun purchase permit from the same licensing authority for which he or she was previously fingerprinted, and who provides an additional valid identification document of his or her identity, need not be fingerprinted again. In such cases, the chief of police or Superintendent shall otherwise fully investigate the applicant in accordance with this subchapter. The chief of police or Superintendent shall require the applicant to complete the New Jersey State Police, State Bureau of Identification (SBI) "Request For Criminal History Record Information For Non Criminal Justice Purpose" form, and pay the appropriate fee established by N.J.A.C. 13:59. Applicants unable to provide an additional valid identification document shall submit to fingerprinting.

Depends on your town. This is from Old Bridge records bureau: Subsequent Application for Similar Permits: 1. Within two (2) years of the initial application, applicant must submit to a Criminal History Name Check (SBI212A form). A money order in the amount of $18.00 must be made out to the New Jersey Division of State Police (SBI). 2. Over two (2) years, applicant must follow Initial Application Procedures. Applicants may apply Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday from 10:00 a.m. to 11:30 p.m. and 2:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. After speaking to the clerk about this, I found that they actually go by the last time you applied for a pistol permit. So, as long as you apply for one every two years, they don't require new prints. I don't think I'll ever get reprinted going by those rules.

I'm in for 5 of the 15/20's.

Thanks, Harry. I'll ad the Diamondback to the list. Now to see if any of the great shops here in nj have any I can check out.

I'm looking for a small 9mm that one day I will carry. Whether it's here in nj (with a favorable scotus ruling) or when I am able to escape this place. I want something small, light, very concealable, and most importantly, reliable. I have it narrowed down to a short list and need to go out and see which one feels just right. Any thoughts on these? Kahr PM9 Sig P290 Glock G26 Walther PPS Ruger LC9

Initials took 88 days about 2 years ago. Second P2P took 45 days. Lets see how long these P2P's take. The friendly clerk said about a month. I said next week would work better for me. At least she had a good chuckle.