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Bob, The email you sent to me got purged in error. Can you please reach out again. Thanks.

Pretty good question. How much and just how visible is considered Open Carry? I see a lot of LE wiggle room here. Act like an A-hole and the guidelines get real narrow. Regular clean cut Joe and a minor condition warrants the discussion, it could be a non-issue. Yea, lots of room for legal interpretations here. Type of car and bumper stickers are going to be the first impression.

Agreed Shane. In all fairness, I need to do more research on the 357 Sig round. When I was in AK I bought a 357 and used 125g bullets. Why? Because that is what the AK State Police carried and if that round was good enough to penetrate multiple layers of winter clothing and still hit the mark, it must be pretty good.There is a very good chance I'll buy a 357 Sig barrel to go along with my 40 for my new Elite.

I'm a fan of bigger entry wounds lets more blood flow out. Me, I have several 45's (P90, 1911, XD,..) with 200g TAP for HD to fight my way to a long gun. Round count is important, in NJ because no matter what caliber we can shoot, we max out at 15. So a full mag of 40 is going to open up more flesh then the .357. I have to find this chart that was published about the surface area of bullets and how using a 9mm (.36) as the base, how much more sure area 40 and 45 give you. Air in, Blood out. 40 for both. In a pinch, how many neighbors or friends are stocked on 357 Sig?

I'm a 1911 guy and the Elites fit my style real well. It will be an easy transition from one to another. I have a loaded operator that is built on match grade parts so it is ready for some league action. Plus I needed a 40 for some work that is coming up.

The 22lr kit is on my mind, but I am looking at a dedicated target 22 pistol. The timing is a little off, might be a few weeks before I make a decision. I can buy all my reloading dies and a fair supply of bullets for the 40 for the kit prices. I want at least a 1,000 down the pipe ASAP to get my muscle memory started. I went with the white because black can be more visible under light colored garments. I want it for white for dress shirts, light cotton when in tropical locations and nothing screams GUN, like a black thing on your hip. Plus against my pastie Irish skin, white will almost disappear against my flesh.

Platinum

I've shot a couple compact Kahr's over the summer during a class and was quite impressed with them and the quality of the trigger. One was a 9mm and the other was a 40 that were the off duty guns of these LEO's. The company HQ is located in NYS right off 287 and they are made in Mass IIRC. The owner, Mr. Moon was very nice when I spoke to him regarding some outside business issues. I own a LCP 380 and it is a surprising little package. I find that I carry that quite often when out of state. There are several little holsters that make it disappear in your pocket or IWB. A close friend in town works for a Bergen County PD and is their lead Tactical Officer and they recently chose the LCP as an approved off duty / back up weapon. They did a bunch of tests and the LCP performed well. What surprised me about the 380 was the minimal deflection of POI going thru a windshield. Yes, a windshield. I had my doubts, but knowing my friend and his experience in the **** hole he works in and being a Marine with substantial combat time in Iraq, I'll trust the LCP if he is carrying it around...as is his chief and other members of the their department. FWIW, they kept the Sig 250 for waaaay longer then Sig wanted them to for their 'field trials'. In the end, they went with the LCP for a back up. The 250 is a great gun, but budgets are tight and they went with the Ruger. YMMV.

Placed the order for the Platinum Elite today!

Speaking of super dicks,... this is NJ. (She must be laughing when she types this stuff) While this company may of had great success in other states and locations, they are facing an entirely different animal with this cluster phuck. I can't remember the exact number, but some dozen or so towns, EPA issues, wet lands, corrupt unions, corrupt politicians, etc. As deep cuts keep coming for our municipal services, you can expect a butt load of dirty deals coming into play that will slow progress and kill any profits for years to come for the financiers of this white elephant. I've had numerous experiences where I have been told that buying a bunch of AED's for the police department will help smooth things along, making a large donation to the plumber's union will help, etc., etc., This in NJ, they should just put a match to the entire project and move on. We have enough shopping centers, malls and 'points of interest'. It was a dumb idea that kept running into yes-men until the reality train caught up with it. I say let it die on the vine and move on.

Of all the goodies you can get in Jamaica, you are going to get busted on primers?

Just down the road from you in Bloomingdale. I've got friends in WM and have heard about some of the stupidness that goes on there. Forget about the Building Department and political correctness factor if you are a wee bit outside the norm's.

I got the call yesterday afternoon that my permits were ready to be picked up. I dropped them off right before Thanksgiving and figured that because of the holidays this time around would take longer then my normal 10 business days from my small town. The message left from our Captain was very polite and wanted to just leave a reminder that even though I received multiple permits, the state, would only allow the purchase of one a month. It was funny that he put extra emphasis on "The State". I like my small town.

I say let the Marine have them one at a time. With his wife there, he was probably more concerned about her. Being out numbered is tough, but I'd love to let the Marine recover and then have some cage time administering some Semper-Fu.

Highly doubtful.

There are times and conditions when laws need to be broken to address that specific incident. Back in 1992 we had a genuine crazy working for our company in accounting who had the hots for this Brazilian Bombshell. She was sweet as sugar and dumb as a rock. I get into work early one day and witness this jerk slap the bombshell hard in the face. I jump into the situation and ask him if he would like to slap me like that while she ran out of the office. I was calling him out right then and there at 0830 in the morning. He folded when he realized he was about to get a serious butt-whooping and all his Bronx Bravado was about to run down his leg. As I left, I swiped everything off his desk with a big arm sweep. Think Accounting and BIG stacks of paper before we were 'paperless'. I reported the incident to HR, and because of his relationship to the CEO, nothing was done except to tell me that I over reacted to the slap (assault). The next day I needed to use the copy machine and he was leaving the copier as I got there. The dope forgot his original copy on the deck which was his "Kill List" which I grabbed. I then refused to give it back to him when he realized he forgot it. I was # 1 on it and my office-mate was # 2. I bring the list into HR and once again they tell me not to over react and not to worry about it! So for the next few weeks, my .357 was my companion. Was the law going to protect me for this jerk? No. Was my company doing anything for my safety? No. Did I have a credible threat against me? Yes. Did I break the law? Yes. I had the mind-set to travel legally and kept it with me for weeks when I worked. I had all my documentation of the incident, the failure of my company to intervene and my pistol was legally owned and registered. Yes I broke the law, but figured the risk was worth it. I made a calculated risk that if things went sour, a jury would be sympathetic.

That's fine. I just want to see first hand what goes on, the cadence of the matches, etc.

Thanks for posting this. It has been on my to-do list for some time.

Bob, I'm interested in helping. These towns are all around me. Just a fyi, I'm also the NRA's EVC for the district.

Well said. There is a saying. If you ain't cheating just a little, then you must not want it bad enough.

In the NRA LE Instructor courses we do a lot of multiple target drills. Consider a couple of things, just looking at time spent versus round count. Highest threat (proximity / weapon / advantage of cover etc) all need to be calculated in a nano-second. So, the highest threat gets 2 or three rounds as quickly as possible and then hit #2 threat with a couple as you are constantly moving off line with two or three round pops. At this point, you better be scrambling for cover while engaging any other targets. Check yourself for leaks and drop a fresh mag in. Stuff the partially spent mag in your pocket. With shots fired odds are the PD are going to be arriving at some point. IF you have a good hiding / defensive position, wait for the PD to arrive and don't do anything stupid. The thought is this, if you are on target, how fast can you put two or three shots in a BG while aiming once or having one sight picture? The alternative is...one for you, and one for you, come back to target one, hey where did he go? Hmmm, okay, now on to target two, then three, wait, did one move again? Take each threat out of the fight as quickly as you can. In KM, we train the same way. If you just punch someone and move onto the next target, he is going to be a problem later on. Break him immediately, break him so bad, that you take the fight out of him. Then, start breaking the next perp. So what if you might take a couple of punches, then you break the guy punching you. This method had served me very well working at clubs. We do drills while walking and engaging three targets, each one has a small rectangle box drawn on it. One has a pelvis, torso and head shots. We have to put two into each box before moving onto the next target. Once you get the hang of it, you'd be surprised how quick you can double tap once your sights are lined up. The last time I was at Dix with the FBI, they were stating that even the guys who shot in the 90% range during qualifications, drop to below 30% during a stress fire. So, every third bullet from an accomplished LEO hits, how confident are you with just shooting a threat once and then coming back to him. If you engage, TAKE them out of the fight. Another stat shows LEO's are trained wrong with engagement distances. IIRC, something like 80% of shootings happen in low light and under 10 feet. So, your sight picture is going to be a flash. That is why, training, training, training is so important, important, important. Most qualifications take place standing upright squared against the target in a lighted range with a very small percentage of shots being under 10 feet. What LEO is going to engage a BG at 20 to 25 yards? Get cover and get on the radio. More training needs to be provided from real world postions, under a chair, on your back, on your belly, one knee up, support side shooting, obstructed view shooting. etc. Punching holes in a Q-Target ain't squat.

Excellent Link. I have three daughters and I sent this link to a bunch of friends, family members and neighbors letting them know this how my angels will be prepared. I love the solid double tap...pregnant pause... insurance shot.

I can tell you that John is the real deal. NO ONE, has the balls to do what he did in writing this book. I've studied Russian History in college and being a post-cold war vet, have a better then average sense of how frigging insane this story was. It is also amazing Russians trusted this American enough to talk about it. There is a very real risk of being moved to Siberia, or worse for speaking about this in your own home, never mind to an American. The KGB is not a group to toy with. I know have a significant amount of Russian culture on here and can probably tell all sorts of stories of sudden relocation for many families or individual that would surprise many of us. And I can't rule out the entire region of Serbia - CZ, Colombians, Haiti, Cuba,etc.

One died on the spot and is going to take weeks to get his pieces out of the wainscoting and tile floor. One was blown thru the kitchen door into the driveway. And the third thought the door to the basement lead out back and fell thru the open door from the breeze of the warning shoots I fired. He must of pasted them on the way down and got hit by them. FWIW, if you ask for medical treatment because you might be having a heart attack or something, they have to get you to a hospital first and you remain silent until your council is present for any questioning.

Grab nearest firearm, identify target as friend or foe, 'retreat', give declaration of intent to use deadly force, bang 3x to 6x, confirm threat is neutralized, tactical reload, seek additional BG's to retreat from. Call 911 when ammo is depleted and ask for a ambulance when the opportunity presents itself, because "I am feeling chest pains". "And btw, there are dead guys in my kitchen. basement and driveway. No rush on the EMT's."