JackDaWack

Man am I glad I stocked up right around the election. I'm going to start reloading rifle after this mayham.

YO, they were handing out IOU's!!! ahaha!! We will pay you when we arrest more people and take their money.... I wouldn't want drug money even if it was confiscated.

Magazine outside the pistol grip. This is what Cali does with the bullet button.afaik not applicable in nj

For a bunch of dicks I'm surprised there such pu**ies

I'm really glad that idiot is not on this planet anymore. Thank god he pointed it at himself and not one of his friends, at least he did one smart thing.

i don't plan on risking going to jail. lol. i cant buy mags over 15rnds, and i cant buy anything that will presumably be banned through an AWB. Unless you really think the AR platform will be banned, which is nearly impossible to list it by name.. I'm not sure how it worked years ago but NJ has had an AWB well before the Federal AWB,

Please explain how a Federal AWB will be different from state to state?

A penalty would assume the person did something wrong.... if owning or using plastic bags warrants a penalty what was the offense? We have littering laws for a reason.

Do people bother to read the thread in any order? I'll give you the boating accident claim, but the rest has been covered.

Exactly. it didnt work last time and you can bet ur a** they will try and remove the grandfather clause. Time will tell but, either a) you get grandfathered in and you have no reason to sell a firearm that will now be a serious investment, or b) scrap metal By the time we know whats going to happen you wont be able to sell off non-grandfathered firearms or buy them if they are grandfathered... the risk is now.

Semi-auto shotguns are absolutely included. You have nothing to worry about it the AWB is the same as the pre-AWB, grandfathered magazines is the only thing we would really need. Things cant get much worse for NJ, well they def. can. But the rest of the country will feel it MUCH more. The real joke here is that CT has an AWB, so again it's just feel good legislation that addresses something already in place that did absolutely nothing in preventing this act.

Who would buy a firearm that is going to be illegal?

You should see what is in some of the IEP's it's down right rediculous. Instead of solving the issue they basically just work around it. Every state is different but I would say that NJ is one of the better and it still makes me sick that we treat the condition and not the child. Many issues stem from home life, schools can't fix bad parents. We have a kid doing half his homework contacted the parents many times and still the problem persists, it's not a lot or even hard homework just basic reinforcement, come high school this kid will have very little work ethic. Doing the bare min. I think there is a lot of merit in your opinion on The drugs we have been feeding kids, laundry list of side effects that are worse then the actual condition. Then you have the fact that we start to diagnose kids with a narrow spectrum. Your kid has trouble focusing in class but seemingly can play a video game for hours on end? then the problem isn't focus because if had a problem focusing it would be across the board. The kid merely has no discipline to complete his responsibilities. So there solution is to feed him drugs like speed to FORCE him to concentrate... force is never a positive reinforcement. Some of these kids play sports, and you never see them wondering around the field being disruptive like they do in the classroom, unfocused and uninterested.

kids don't go into programs unless they have a severe learning disabilty, being distracting and having adhd doesnt get a student into a program. Having an IEP and being classified doesn't mean they get thrown into a program it just means that teachers have to deal with it in the classroom. The only time I have seen schools get money and remove kids from matriculation is for autism and serious learning disabilities. ADHD gets you a prescription and an IEP. Which doesn't do anything to solve the problem really. Schools would rather not diagnose from my opinion. It cost them way more then they receive.

I would do it every month or bi-weekly. I'm sick of feeling like some kind of target and being unable to even assure the kids they are safe when I don't even feel safe.

With milled parts you can generally achieve a greater tolerance, which attributes to better accuracy. Stamped parts generally use softer metals so they can be molded. Stamping is a much quicker process, and may use lesser then adequate material that may wear faster. Stamping is just a means to make smaller less important parts cheaper to make. You also have MIM parts which is injection molding. Some say that with the correct heat treatment of parts you should have little problems with any of them, but the preferred method today is milled parts.

i think it was more of a general statement. Its an AWB feature yeah, but i can still own a flash hider considering none of our compliant rifle barrels are threaded for use with non-evil rifles.

It's merely an assumption of what might happen in 2013.

Your absolutely right, some where there is a balance between punishment and reward. When do we punish and when do we reward. Our society is so messed up we don't even know where to place the blame, or we purposely shift it. Same can be said for most bailouts, we reward the system that provided the crash. Values are taught from the top down, we need to remember that.

I couldn't even begin to answer that, I have no idea what it was like for the previous generation , me being in my late 20's. Kids are only as difficult to deal with as the person in charge makes it. You can walk around a school and see how teachers and kids interact. Same kids in different classrooms can act completely different. These are traits kids learn very young, the idea you have to work for something is probably where much of it stems from. i see a lot of kids on a daily basis, some are hell bent on making your life difficult while others work very hard. When kids aren't motivated to work towards something they begin to fall apart in atmospheres where they actually need to work. The question is how do we motivate them? Is punishment the answer? Does a parent open up a bad report card and feel bad for the kid, then pampers him? Where do we find consistency?

I wasn't necessarily referring to you being knowledgeable on the issue, but everyone. And i did get a bit consfused with your 2 examples, i apologize for that. And you are spot on with the rest, proper car is def. lacking, barely any funds considering we have kids from many districts piled into one, lack of aids for kids who really need it(districts can't afford it, even hiring a high school grad at 20k a year), lack of parents to do anything(denial there kid is normal). For those that dont know. YOU CANNOT classify a student with out the parents consent.

Ok. I'm not going to disagree with the slap on the wrist comment then. But, through personal experience, i can say that the kids i work with could care less about the consequences when in the heat of the moment. When their switch gets flipped nothing matters but what they want to do.... after the fact they can figure out what they did was wrong, but that doesn't change what they just did. So we have a heavy focus on a reward system and loss of privilage, but we cant rewire their brain, it's very difficult knowing these kids will have to live with this for life. You have to keep them in a structured consistent environment.

How is suspending someone with a mental disorder going to solve the issue? If you really think that is the issue, then please tell me how they will learn from being sent home? You talk like these people will learn from it or something.... Suspending kids to me is more of a brush off then anything. Step back for a second, understand that your talking about someone who is mentally ill, maybe do some research on what issue's these kids deal with. it will become quickly apparent to you that traditional means of punishment do not work. Personally, this is possibly to most ON-topic discussion that has come in here... how we deal with our mentally disabled..

PM2116 Typically the kids aren't suspended for a pretty good reason... At school these kids have a structured environment. At home there is usually none. We want to keep them in these programs on a day to day basis. Every Monday is hard because they have 2 days off, when we got back to school after the week off from sandy it was a nightmare. You send these kids home for doing something bad, they may do it again just so they can go home. These kids aren't logical, so you have to be careful how you shape their behavior, they will learn quickly how to get what they want through manipulation. it is very hard to teach these kids consequences since most of their "bad" behavior stems from the heat of the moment. Sending them home is actually counterproductive, when you can set up many different ways to deal with it in school, like the loss of privileges, or having them complete projects which deal with the issue. Sending them home to play video games hang out and watch TV is not the answer. We have elongated school years to keep these kids in school for all but one month out of the year.

If this kid had Asperger's syndrome, then the school may very well have seen violence from this kid while he attended there. I cant speak with a certainty, but i do work with kids that have Asperger's. I work in a behavior program, and non of this comes as a surprise to me. Our focus should be primarily on the mental health system, these kids only get help when the parents demand it in schools, and then after high school there is very little if any help for these people. Were talking about people with a severe social disorder, and it's not like they only have a hard time dealing with social behaviors, they have many other issues including violent behavior and the inability to deal with hardships in a logical way. I have had chairs thrown at me over something as silly as getting a problem wrong on test when i asked the student to erase it and try again, they have lied to try and get me fired, and on countless occasions talked about killing people because they performed better or won a game and they lost. There NEEDS to be a focus on this issue, because this seemingly disabled person was able to do way to much damage knowing full well of his behavior issues. Our program is designed to keep these kids on track in school, and modify there behavior, but the fact is there is only so much we can do with a student that has a mental disorder, we cant change that, we can only try and help the student cope with it.