JackDaWack

To assert a dominance they otherwise don't have. The NJSP firearms unit also wrote those letters for "others", just like the ATF seems to think they are the end all be all of "law". We see how quickly those decisions flip flop, so really... what is their "guidance" worth? especially if it a)changes or b) is incorrect. The NJSP will simply say they never provided advice to the general public. IIRC, that guidance book, was super secretive that was not allowed to be seen by us peons.

That letter, even if it's "authentic" applies to no other agency except the NJSP authorization of permits. Municipalities are not within their guidance, courts and or prosecutors. For example: If you get caught carrying a firearm you didn't qualify with and are charged with illegally carrying a weapon, that letter isn't gonna do crap for you. NJSP, or any LEO for that matter do NOT advise citizens on legal matters, It's a liability. So, unless it's an official statement from the NJ AG office, I would disregard the entire "letter". GUN RANGES SHOULD KNOW BETTER. To clarify, not a single municipal PD is going to read this "letter" and or use it as guidance.

Can't copy and paste an email? CANT TAKE A SCREEN SHOT, Lol OKAY. If its not meant to be released to the general public, it's worthless anyway. I would think something formal would refer to the Barracks, Troops or stations, not PD's. The state police is one singular police department. It's just written and communicated so poorly, even if it was retype to beleive it's worth something. Like I said in the other thread, ANY and ALL internal memos have the indivual who authored the memo and the recipient. It makes less sense if these things were purposely removed.

Correct. The State Police do not delegate policy or procedure to municipalities. As mentioned, official internal memos/directives are conducted with a letter head, and also must include a recipient/s. Not to mention it can't be "from" the entirety of the NJSP... its from whomever( the actual person) wrote it. It's not even a question if that's fake. Who ever did that is a complete moron.

A week isn't really that bad. Both times I had to get fingerprints I had about a 3 week wait, this was over 10 years ago though.

Are people experiencing long wait times for finger printing. My wife had to get them a month ago and got an appointment within a week.

It's not clear what role the judge plays here anymore. In the past, the judge was only responsible for determining the justifiable need after the application was approved by the authorizing chief of police, and any limitations placed on the license. With that gone, what roll a judge serves is procedural if even that. SCOTUS essential removed every part of our permitting process past the chief of police.

A judge in NJ has provided relief for that specific statutory requirement, not this one. I beleive someone sued that they hadn't recieved their permits of FPID within 30 days.

Who is recruiting anyone to hate Nappen? Where did I say I hated him and you should too? He is a lawyer, he makes money selling lawyer things. I simply pointed out he attempts to sell services and information to people that really isn't needed. Yet he does it under the pretense if you don't heed my advice you could end up in jail. When I started purchasing firearms and going to ranges it was never apparent to me I needed to pay for any services by a lawyer, book or otherwise. The state offers basic FAQs on everything you would need to know, and in some cases his advice was beyond statutory language. This was the guy who tried to tell everyone you couldn't transport a loaded mag, you would go to jail. He has a very close relationship with ANJRPC, the emails they send out for his seminars are almost non stop. He is well known, and paraded as the TOP gun lawyer in NJ, it's really just that he the most prominent. Anyone seeking services from a lawyer should have a consultation in regards to what steps are needed to file an appeal or force action, sometimes that requires a simple letter of intent. In the past, NJ2AS was providing these letters for free.. this guy's wants 5 grand? A 5k retainer isn't much if you are looking at someone spending hours of their time. A basic consultation should be done to determine what costs are going to be incurred.

According to who? Nappen has a long history of putting out "free" advice that servers to fear monger people into paying him for informational classes. I'm not cool with overtly confusing gunowners or making them so scared to drive to a gun to a range that they feel they need to pay a lawyer so as to properly transport firearms. Few would pay for his services, or buy his books if he didn't do this.

Many forums have been witnessing an uptick in scammers. One particular forum I visit this is literally a daily occurrence, and accounts are banned when discovered. Please be vigilant. MODS MAKE STICKY, Just wanted everyone to be aware. Scammers are trying something different recently, and good people fall victim to it. If you post a wanted ad, they will send you a PM with a message similar to this: "Andrew Swanson in California has for sale here is his gmail address [email protected] ,you’re welcome" The names and email addresses change, the message may indicate what you are trying to buy, but it's a scam, so do not reply or email them. If you get a PM with this message, please use the report button on it to alert the moderators who can ban the scammer. They are relentless and will make new user names. Also, be aware of payment systems that dont protect the buyer when dealing with people you don't know personally. Request or demand for PayPal friends and family is a red flag, you always have the option to pay the fee to protect the purchase, there is no reason for a seller to discourage someone willing to pay the fee unless they are scamming. Scammers will evolve there communications, just use some common sense and due dillegence knowing how exposed we are to them. Pay attention to user join dates and post counts as well.

I'm guessing you paid him using friends and family? I would think you could recover your money easily otherwise. This is an incredibly common scam I see on a lot of forums. One forum I'm on has a sticky thread in the WTB section warning people not to do business with anyone who claims they know someone with the item. And NEVER use friends and family PP, NEVER! 90% of scammers are not in the US, unless YOU protect the transaction, its like sending cash in the mail. Never do business with anyone who just joined the forum unless it's FTF. No one joins a forum to message a person like this who is legit.

By April of last year, 2021, they stopped discussions of a buyout. Microsoft wanted nothing more than their own social platform to mine user data. They tried to buy Twitter and Pintrest as well. I'm not sure if Discord recognized the potential of going public , or they plan on continuing to build the platform to sell at a higher price. I would hope they recognize that companies like Microsoft will gut the platform to a shell of its former self.

How familiar are you with him? He does a lot of fear mongering, case and point. And a lot of people have issues with the NRA profiteering.

There is a reason I take everything Nappen says with a grain of salt...

Now that they are digital, do you even need to physically show it anymore?

No, I emailed the Cheif and asked him to forward it for me, that was the only email they published on the PD website. I know my PD is responsive, so I figured emailing was actually the least disruptive and best use of time. Calling or stopping in usually results in a wait or "leave a message", and often pulling the officer from a duty etc.

There is no law he is clarifying or instituting, so it's not even applicable.

I had the same exact issues last week. I emailed the detective in charge and he took care of the issue with a few hours. YMMV

Its 60 days, don't say police, it references someone in the county.

Why do they even need an RSO permit now? Seems pointless when standard permits are allowed.

Only issue I see is documenting when you submit your application. Otherwise the law is crystal clear, automatic approval on day 91. Would be even better when they get FARS up and running. Yes, this is NJ... why continue to put up with this crap with both the law and SCOTUS on your side.

NJ state law says you can, SCOTUS aside.

Tell them they have 90 days to figure it out before you start carrying, legally.

Because the statute doesn't say you have to take exactly the HQC1... The state won't be setting standards anytime soon, either.