JackDaWack

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I saw this earlier, and I wondered if the ATF has been holding off on the new rules specifically because of this case.

If you have an lnl, there is a shim mod for the base that greatly helps indexing. The shell plates are also not 100% symmetrical or uniform. After I added a small shim, which is actually an ar15 barrel shim, I got the shell plate to run really smooth, then realized it liked to get stuck at certain spots.. so I started marking the underside of the shell plates and started to file and polish them... Dillon or Hornaday, they both require a decent amount of work to get running really nice. A few mods really make a difference. For reference, I never have indexing issues. I will load a couple hundred... walk away for a month, and load another couple hundred without doing so much as loading in powder. I do plan a big blue machine one day simply for automation.

I think this is gonna be PD dependent by town. My town gets permits out fast. I actually applied over the weekend, had an issue with a reference getting the email. The issuing officer was on the phone with them today mid afternoon after an email from me this morning and it's straighten out already. I can see the PD in my town working through applications quickly, as noted before, the county side might be a hang up but now it's just a rubber stamp for them. I feel lucky to have a town that really respects the process. Others will not be so fortunate.

Depends if you're required to produce one when required, or keep it on you when carrying. Not sure of either.

Doesn't matter. The 30 day rule for fpid and permits doesn't have an "automatically approved" attached to it. Tables are a bit turned with that difference. If the administrative codes say 60 days or an auto approval, if they go beyond 60 days it's just that. If the FPID, or permits takes more thst 30 days, they don't get the same rubber stamp approval. The PDs in that case were absolved from the 30 day limit, because there is no recourse for taking longer. I'm sure some of this will change.

I dont recall who, but the statute did say a specific person, which I assume is the authorizing individual. As always I advise nothing but what the statute says.

NJ state law says 60 days to render an approval or denial, after 60 its automatically approved. There is no NJ precedent they can take longer like with FPIDs, and FPIDs wouldn't result in auto approval anyway because the statute doesn't say that.

It's not clear yet, but the wording is you need to qualify with it, which could mean multiple.

My plan right now, P938, Px4 Compact, Gen 3 G19c, and I'm contemplating adding the P365 to the collection. What range is the qual shot at? My p938 shoots just as well as my G19 and Px4c

Been a member at cherry ridge for 10+ years. I have not a single negative thing to say about the place. In fact, I just renewed my membership. GFH and RTSP are too rich for my blood with their membership costs and additional range use fees.

Should have told them to pound sand.

You needed pictures for your FPID?

I doubt NJ will make private property defacto no gun zones without permission. That is in many ways a first amendment violation. The government can't speak for property owners willingness to allow or not allow a constitutionally protected act. I dont see reciprocity happening, nj will claim other licensing or non licensing doesn't meet NJ standards. Unfortunately, SCOTUS left that door wide open.

It's not clear to me how it would be interpreted, the opinion leaves licensing requirements wide open to states.

Reciprocity is sill a states right to choose who is allowed to carry bases on their own licensing program. NJ will most likely not be recognizing any out of state permits. Others states will make their own choices. States with no licenses to carry will be left in the dark with licensing states I am sure.

2 full days? Gun for hire will have something waaay shorter, not sure the length yet, but probably a few hours or less. There is a running ccw thread in the general forum.

Rejoice!

Sometimes being wrong is a good thing!!! Especially for all the pessimists around here.. Now... who's gonna be the first to offer us a class?

It's on BOYs!!! NJ AG officially advised to process the applications without justifiable need!!

Look, I get the hurry up and wait idea here. However, the Ball IS rolling. Again, let's keep the thread on topic this is about the process. You guys have the platform in the SCOTUS thread to discuss the legality and issues that lie there. The warning has been laid out here that a denial is still entirely possible... its up to the individual at this point to make the decision if it's worth the risk. I for one, want to start putting together an application, find a person or place to get me qualified so the day I hear good news I'm walking in the door to the PD. Better sooner than later we build up an easy process for everyone here to reference so we can streamline ccw applicants. For now, lets keep the thread clear so we can update with actual CCW resources as they become available and info from people applying.

Not that I'm aware. That's a pretty low bar considering NJs statute. Also, NJ requires the training or quals to be "current", so I would guess within 6 months or less.

Let's keep this on topic tho, I don't want it to delve into the courts opinion. We need to force this change around here and it starts with people following the prescribed process as it stands. Are you willing to share where or with whom you do your qualifications?

While the argument was with regard to the NY state law, Alito did us a huge favor and wrote that opinion to be FAR reaching. It's clear NJs law is in violation. I can be patient, which is why I wanted a thread that has advice like this and others on how to proceed. As always your Input is appreciated.

I was just double checking when you responded, yes FARS doesn't have CCW option so it's paper application. I originally assumed they would do fingerprints electronically, but it said 2 sets. Not sure what's better considering the fee morphotrack charges..