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The NRA hits things on a national level and gets involved in state issues that are winnable, right now at the state level the other groups and WE are more effective, and when it's time for the NRA to give that final push, or the push we need in the case that we hope will be heard by the SCOTUS is where money allocations and resources are best served for the whole NRA membership.

I know we have a thread on this, but this did put a different spin on it from what I read earlier: Gun Owners of America Senate Moves on Bill to “Muzzle the Web” Legislation could potentially shut down gun websites By now, you are no doubt aware that several websites have either gone totally or partially “dark” today in protest of the pernicious internet legislation that will be coming to a vote next week. Wikipedia and Google are just two of the websites which are protesting in this manner. And while you may have not paid much attention to this story, you need to know that the “muzzle the web” legislation these sites are protesting could also affect your ability to get gun-related information on websites like GOA’s. The reason is that S. 968 could, in its final form, allow the Brady Campaign to partially shut down our GOA website and our organization (plus many other pro-gun websites) with a series of factually accurate, but legally frivolous complaints. The Senate bill and its House counterpart have accurately been called “a direct attack on the underpinnings of the web.” True, many of the most serious “gun problems” are in the House counterpart. But the reality is this: We are within a few votes of killing the whole concept next week in the Senate with only 41 Senate votes. But if we allow the so-called “anti-piracy” bill to go forward on the HOPE that the worst provisions will not make it into the final version -– and we fail to eliminate them -– the bill may be unstoppable. Here are the “gun problems,” as we see them: Section 103(b)(1) of H.R. 3261 allows any “holder of an intellectual property right” to demand that PayPal and other payment and advertising services stop providing services to organizations like ours, thereby shutting off our income. How would they do this? Perhaps by arguing that we were stealing their intellectual property by quoting their lying misrepresentations in our alerts. Is this legally frivolous? Sure it is. But the Brady Campaign is the King of Frivolous Complaints: * Remember when the Brady Campaign asked the Federal Election Commission in 2007 to shut down GOA’s ability to post its candidate ratings on the Internet? They claimed that we were in violation of the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Act. Thankfully, the FEC ruled in GOA’s favor, thus enabling us to continue posting candidate ratings without restraint. * Remember when the Brady Campaign got 36 state and local jurisdictions to bring frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers –- not in the expectation of winning, but to drain the resources of the manufacturers in order to halt the manufacture of guns in America? This “muzzle the web” legislation will throw the doors open to even more frivolous complaints. Could we defend ourselves? Yes, we could. We could file a counter notification under section 103(b)(5) and spend years defending ourselves. But the one thing we did learn during the 36 frivolous lawsuits is that the anti-gun forces in America have very deep pockets. And the other problem is that, under section 104, our Internet providers would be insulated from liability for shutting us down. But they would receive no comparable insulation from legal liability if they refused to cut us off. The Senate version, S. 968, has been amended, at the behest of Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley and others, to provide many protections which were not in its initial form. Under section 3, the Attorney General would go to court and would have to claim that, because of a hyperlink to an offending site, we were “primarily” engaged in the theft of intellectual property. We would feel a lot better about these protections if the Attorney General were not Eric Holder, a ruthless ideologue who has demonstrated that he will go to any lengths to destroy the Second Amendment. So the bottom line is this: H.R. 3261 and S. 968 would potentially empower the Brady Campaign and Eric Holder to go after our Internet site. To do so, they would have to make the same frivolous arguments and engage in the same lawless activity that they have done so often in the past. But -– given that we’re within a few votes of snuffing out that risk by killing the bill in the Senate -– we believe it’s the better course of action to do so. ACTION: Click here to contact your Senators. Ask them to vote against S. 968, every chance they get.

Very nice LA ya got there Dan.

I see it says you home range is in Florida, are you there also, if not and in NJ you might want to see what you can get for your guns here in Market Place. Decent deals on guns usually don't last a day, and I have seen some go in about a minute or 2..

Post up an order number and Email for them and I'll send them an email RE:Order # XXX about what I heard about them from you and let them know I'll stand by my friend and there are only just shy of 3000 members here on the forum that just read about their service also. Total BS

It was Kali, that would be "Mi Encanta"

Wow, I knew things were not great but this is ridiculous. Tough Times in Burbank

There should't be a limit in the first place, why change from 1 BS limit to another??

It's a vicious cycle, believe me I know..

They should be limited or have separate divisions but if that was the case we would have too many divisions to shoot. However a 617 with 10 rounds would be perfect for OBRAMS, but I'll do it with my 9 shot 94..

After your done shooting the stage they will score the targets, you will know then what hits you got.

^^^^ This!!

Really, thats got to be rough being they are in a state where they could probably buy as many of them they could afford if they were from there. I'd be waling around and looking everywhere so fast I'd have whiplash by now, happy I saw it all, but sad at the same time being I know I just did a bunch of window shopping.

I usually bring 300 rounds but I also bring a lot home, better to have too much than not enough is my thought. If it covers the trigger you should be good, but you might want to post a pic of it to get verification being I am not sure what the one you have looks like. Others may chime in also. At OBRPC it's the 4th Sunday of the month every month. 9mm is harder to see but you most of the time you can make out where you hit, well let me say it's easy to watch other as they shoot and see hit, but for some reason as you're shooting not as easy. Also some targets are close range other are lfurther out so it does vary if you can see the hit, but not impossible.

Yea that would be nice, I got the idea because I want to shoot Word Class Steel with my lever action, I know I would get grouped in with the Carbine crowd and could never keep up with then being semi auto but I do think it would be cool as heck shooting a lever. I got the idea being I didn't want to hold up other being I can only fit 16 22's in and I would need to load for the last 2 stages at least. Pre loading the tubes I can shoot and be done and not hold anyone up. Plan on trying it out on the steel match on the 3rd Sunday at OB one of these times. For now, I'm just working the Center fire and rim-fire pistol iron divisions. Also I wish they had a rim-fire revolver division for steel, but it is what it is. For now I'll have to stick with OBRAMS for the 22 wheelie.

Very Nice Ant..

Stop it Rey, I can take the teasing...

Heck, I got my toes crossed, and the wife and daughter with the way they are looking at me, well I hope it's to help the weather gods and not something else..

1911 would be perfect if you have a holster and mag holder, while optional on the mag holders it does help. If it's a single stack, they have a separate division for them. Good to hear she ate all the ammo you feed her, nothing worse than a picky gun. You want to feel a decent trigger, wait to you see some of the guns the people have there, mine is a CZ 75 TS with about a 2lb trigger and it's nice, but I have felt other trigger's that were a lot nicer, bit then again, mine is a factory trigger and the other had trigger jobs..

Thats why I do like my tube feed Marlin, or any tube feed lever action. I have some old arrows (Thanks Bob) I plan on setting up as a speed loader for my Marlin 22LR. Tubes are perfect size for it, I bet you could find something for larger caliber tube feed that could work the same way.

I'm hoping the Wintry Mix doesn't mess with the match!!

Not always being I can see who is at the door, but yes I have had my HD gun with me a time or 3.

Nope, not any bias towards Henry products, none at all that I could see.

Yup, other than a safety briefing and a quick rundown on the rules it's the style of shooting will be old hat to you. Cool, now you're talking,by the way how'd she shoot last night in Bayonne?

If you ever find you way up in Old Bridge at one of the matches, let me know, if we are going to the same match I can bring a tube feed Marlin Golden 39A to try out on the rifle range if you like. I know not exactly what you are looking for but it is a lever action, and a fun gun to shoot.