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The Second Amendment, The Original Homeland Security !! Harry

Sorry guys I can't watch that show, SoA it right in line with the OCC crew and after seeing a few of there shows I wouldn't trust them to fix a boat anchor. OCC are a bunch of hacks, SoA are joke, but I guess from the comments here must provide some entertainment. Harry

Kraft Parmesan cheese??? Harry

Gun Control does not work period, it has been proved time and time again through out history, people who do not learn from the past are bound to repeat it.. Whether you agree or not, it's an interesting lesson in history. Something to think about... In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ----------------------------- Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. ------------------------------ So it might be said that guns don't kill people, gun control does! It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear our president, governors or other politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans.....before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. We here in America have the second amendment (thank God) "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" Gun control, for our safety and the safety of the children, is the cry of those that would forfeit our God given right to self defense! (remember the 56 million who died for lack of guns to defend themselves) I am posting this again. When I posted it before it was a little late on a previous thread. I would also let you all know that I am not the author. A man named Larkin Rose wrote this. I thought it was thought provoking. (P.S. Remember, this book is talking to aspiring tyrants.) - —————————————————— The Sin of Self Defense Transforming independent individuals into slaves requires extensive indoctrination. The way they view life, the world, and themselves must be molded into an outlook that is compatible with tyranny. They must be trained to be scared of the world, and always to be seeking some “authority” to protect and take care of them. Whenever a problem arises, they should look to their rulers for the solution rather than taking it upon themselves to fix it. One of the main problems that the peasants must be trained not to deal with themselves is violent conflict. It is imperative that they view you (and your enforcers) as the only protection against robbery, assault, and murder. In short, they must be indoctrinated in such a way that they do not even want to be able to defend themselves. The reason is simple: if the peasants feel capable and entitled to “enforce justice” themselves, they might just decide to enforce a little justice against you. And that obviously won’t do. They must be trained to give up their belief in their right to defend themselves, which is not an easy thing to do. You must attack “peasant justice” in any ways you can think of, such as: 1) “Vigilante justice can never be as just or fair as our system”; 2) “You can’t possibly protect yourselves; let us do it”; 3) “If you have a gun, you’ll only hurt yourself”; 4) “If the peasants were allowed to use force, there would be chaos”; 5) “Private protection agencies would just deteriorate into competing gangs of thugs”; and so on. Often privately-enforced justice is referred to as the people “taking the law into their own hands,” which reinforces the idea that only enforcers of “the law” should ever use force, and of course the lowly peasants can’t be allowed to do that. The point requires a lot of indoctrination because it is so contrary to the instinct every creature has to defend itself and its pack. A few samples of past attitudes show how far the U.S. empire has come in training its citizens to loathe the idea of having to defend themselves. “The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property.” [Thomas Paine] “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. ... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” [Thomas Jefferson] Even when it came to defending against foreign invasion, the founders of the United States of America abhorred the idea of a “standing army,” and preferred instead an armed (and trained) citizen “militia.” “A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” [James Madison] “[T]o preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” [Richard Henry Lee] Even worse, a mere couple of centuries ago, even well-educated, respected individuals spoke openly about the possibility of the common folk using violence against their own rulers. “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.” [Noah Webster] “f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights and those of their fellow citizens.” [Alexander Hamilton] “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.” [Patrick Henry] “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” [Thomas Jefferson] Needless to say, that is an idea that you must rip out of the minds of your subjects at all costs. The common folk should not view themselves as justified even in fending off a common crook by force, much less fending off a foreign invader, or fending off you and your thugs. The revolutionary concept of a “militia,” consisting of the people in general, which stands ready to forcibly resist tyranny even from their own “government,” must be removed by any means necessary from the realm of possibilities in the minds of the peasants. <BR clear=all>

+1 for that, and your supporting a Forum Sponsor. Harry

Very cool Tim, good to hear he's moving up and shooting well. Harry

Thank god he was in the Free USA and not here in NJ, we could have been reading about a much different outcome. Hope for a quick and full recovery of the Student and no BS charges Criminal or Civil. Harry

Jon, Any chance you have ever price .40 TCFM in 180GR with them? Harry

Oh, you saw there lips moving to, huh?? Harry

Hmmmm, wonder what the House and Senate would look like?? Harry

Surfs up dude!! Harry

Just to update, I completed the mod and it works fine and especially after I fixed one thing I messed up. As far as getting rid of the mag safety, I removed the following parts, 23, 24, and 34, while I was at it i also removed the BS Walther lock while I was it it so that little plastic key is useless just as it shouldn't have been there in the first place. Now if you do this, be careful with the sear spring, mine flipped and wasn't in the correct position, this didn't stop the gun from working but intermittently it would go in and out of SA, I'll say it was fun expecting SA and getting DA when shooting steel Saturday. I just chalk it up as I had an excuse.. Now with the sear spring in it's correct position I have a gun that works like it should, very happy with the results. If anyone wants to do this and has any questions I'd more than happy to help. Harry

Welcome to the Forum. Harry

Welcome to the Forum. Harry

I hear ya, but if I'm up SC and need help I'll take it from whoever is able to help, there should be plenty of help if people would just put the camcorder down for a minute. Harry

Welcome to the forum Rob. One note on the new range, if you do know the location please keep it secret until the folks are opening it announce it publicly on the forum, they wanted to keep it hush,hush until they had the CO in hand. Harry

Dan, being that I am just getting into reloading I wanted to ask if they hung up in the chamber and didn't eject, wouldn't chamber at all?? Were they being fired in the gun you were loading for or another, did they check in a chamber gage? Are you using a normal resizing/de-priming die or under size die? Not trying to diagnose your issue but trying to learn, and maybe looking at this with fresh eyes might add a question that normally wouldn't be asked by a long time reloader. Harry

Well you know I'll be there but with trying to shoot 3 different Steel matches this month and one of them I have to shoot Center-fire caliber I figured I shoot my P22, still have will have the CZ with me just in case, after all I did some mods on the P22 so I haven't had a chance to check her out, just finished a few minutes ago. Harry

What'd you eat?? lol I'll stop by and see you some time tomorrow, will be shooting steel. Harry

I have looked and want to do this to mine but I am see conflicting ideas on how to do this. I want to be able to pull the trigger on the gun when I do not have a magazine inserted in the gun and have it drop the hammer. No I don't want to dry fire practice, I just need to show clear to the RO with the hammer down when I shoot and it a pain in the butt to have it not act like a gun should and keeping an extra empty mag is a waste to me just for this. I have seen people mention that they just remove part 23, the magazine safety, however there is no mention to the spring inside a spring that rests on top of #23, there would be springs 24 # 34. I have also seen mention of just removing part #24, but no mention of the other spring outside that one #24. Is the theory here that with one of the 2 springs removed that there isn't enough pressure on the Mag safety to prevent the trigger from firing? Or are either of the write up's I have read just not mentioning the other parts that need to be removed, or am I just understanding them wrong. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Harry

Also if you go over to Rimfirecentral they have a forum that there is a 3 part sticky that details everything about taking the gun down completely. Harry

I just found this and will be doing some mods on my P22 and found a great PDF file for the gun, has plenty of Pic's great info. P22 Bible Harry

Yup, FMJ CMJ will be the only .40 I load, not planning on doing any just lead at this time and from what most have told me and also my buddy that had a 650 was just to use the Dillon Die's and the U die in position 1 and whatever I decide in position 3, but no matter what, never trust a mechanical devise and take the extra time to LOOK at each load as is passes. Harry

Off duty vehicle?? Harry