Old Glock guy

Thanks for the update Dwight. I wonder how many months will pass before Judge Shipp gets back to you with a reply

I'm pretty sure I've posted elsewhere in this lengthy thread, but this is a good reminder that if I'm not out of here by the beginning of 2018 when Christie leaves office, at the very least I want to have a residence somewhere in Free America where I can keep my stuff.

I find it outrageous that the government of NJ will not allow its subjects to defend themselves against serious threats.

Good story! Thanks Howard. The man was a true hero. It's a shame he will be ignored by the MSM.

Until they decide to make it invalid again.

Laws don't give us permission to do things, they tell us what we can't do. If there's no law against something, then it's legal.

AAR I was up there last Wednesday and Thursday, 5/25 and 5/26. Weather was quite warm, up into the 80's. I had been warned about large class sizes at SSA, but there were only three of us in the class, a retired military guy who was going to be traveling to Alaska and wanted to be proficient with a shotgun in case he encountered any grizzlies; a federal agent (customs enforcement, I believe) who has had a lot of handgun training, but wanted to be up to speed with his SG; and yours truly, a 60's something dentist. I linked the class curriculum in my initial post. The first morning was a couple of hours of classroom, mostly a review of a lot of boring basics, with some entertaining anecdotes sprinkled in. Things got a lot better in the afternoon when we went to the range for live fire. We started slowly, but soon were engaging multiple targets with multiple shots. There was an emphasis on accurate shooting, and on keeping our guns loaded and running. We shot a few slugs to evaluate our point of impact, and did a little work on transition to handguns. The second day was all live fire. We reviewed some of the activities from the previous day, and got into some turning and shooting, and shooting on the move. In the afternoon, we shot some more slugs (although I don't recall doing any ammo changeovers), and then did some shooting and moving from behind barricades, utilizing birdshot, buckshot and slugs. All told, we went through around 350 rounds of birdshot/target loads, around 25 rounds of buckshot, and around 15 slugs. I'm proud to say that my small-framed body (just under 150 pounds) held up fine, with no soreness in my shoulder or anywhere else. This class was somewhat basic, relative to other training I've done, but I'm hoping to get back up there for some of their more advanced offerings. I also would not mind doing some handgun training there. Took me five hours of driving each way from north Jersey (Google Maps says just a little over four hours, but I encountered pockets of heavy traffic both ways), but I would have to say it was worth it.

That's great! We should ask our politicians if they're smarter than a six year-old.

I have little doubt that that's exactly what would happen.

Looks like they don't have anything scheduled at C1T until the fall.

I understood the OP's question to mean that he is looking for a competitive event. Certainly he could put a target stand at 50 yards at CR and plink away to his heart's content.

Yes. Bring your own reusable bags to the store and screw 'em.

I can't help having a nagging feeling that these guys are going to be granted their CCW permits due to meeting the "justifiable need" standard, and the rest of us will still be screwed.

It's an entirely separate discussion as to whether polymer tipped ammo like Critical Defense or Guard Dog are considered "hollow points" or not. Some say yes, some say no. If I'm not mistaken, state laws refer to "expanding ammunition." In either case, as others have noted, hollow points are perfectly legal for home defense. The takeaway here: Don't take advice about firearms laws from LEO's (with the exception of the knowledgeable guys on these boards, of course).

It's only the sports and the puzzles that keep me getting that wretched rag. And even at that, I only get it Thursday through Sunday.

Has anyone else here trained with them? I'm taking the ride up there next week for their two day Defensive Shotgun class: https://www.sigsaueracademy.com/productdisplay/defensive-shotgun As I've noted elsewhere, I'm not big on long drives (it's about four hours), but I'm not finding much else that's close to home. I was hoping for something more advanced, but they don't have any of those scheduled, and as HE has said, it's a good idea to keep going back to the basics. I'm looking forward to a couple of days of shotgunning. I'll be sure to file an AAR.

So requiring "good reason" is unconstitutional, but "justified need" is still OK.

Yes, truly sucks to be us! Isn't Missouri the state that passed a resolution that if federal gun laws are more restrictive than theirs, that they will consider them null and void?

Mike Kelly of the Bergen Record weighed in on this yesterday with an opinion piece praising the legislature for standing up to Christie to prevent him from making it easier for people to get concealed carry permits. You might not want to waste your time reading the whole thing, but be sure to see the comments at the end. http://www.northjersey.com/columnists/legislature-rebuffs-christie-over-easing-gun-purchase-rules-1.1587832

Sorry I missed this. I was up there Wednesday, but a little later, around 12:30. It was a gorgeous day!

That's pretty messed up. Those kids sound so brainwashed by liberal think-speak.

7.62 and my AK. BTW, I can't envision a single scenario where I would be better off bugging out than staying put in my suburban neighborhood, but I have a couple of bug out bags prepared nonetheless.

Mikelets456, of course I realize that. Read my last sentence again. I was asking the question rhetorically. You are absolutely correct in your assessment. I fear there is no hope for this state. I will keep fighting while I'm here, but I believe the only way to restore one's 2A rights is to leave NJ.

So the governor changes the standard for concealed carry from impossible to nearly impossible, and the legislature has a fit. When will they realize that it's not about guns, but about our natural born right to be able to defend ourselves against criminals, terrorists, and other predators? It's a big F you to all of us, whose lives are deemed to be worthless by our ruling class.

Holy crap, that's a long time! What a disgrace. Congratulations on finally getting them. Better put in for some new P2P's now, before you need them!