Duppie

There have been numerous articles about Red light cameras and the increase of rear end collisions {Check Autoblog.com} to the point that several towns that were testing eventually kicked them out.The underlining and unmistakable result IMO is it raises huge amounts of revenue for the town and the vendor and has little to do with public safety and everything to do with money for cash strapped municipalities. After the red light cameras proves to be a boom, it's just a matter of time before speed cameras are touted as lifesavers also. Europe is filled with these cameras and is now experimenting with GPS technology to actually cite drivers familiar with the camera's locations and speed between them. Think about that next time you climb into your OnStar equipped vehicle or press my location on your on board GPS .

I have attempted to decipher Mr Shoot's shorthand and can only conclude that alcohol or poor typing skills contribute to the cipher that he alone can understand... but I believe he asks that if repairs or modifications were to be done on the main trigger housing that has the firearm's serial number, will authorities have to be notified?.... and again I offer only a guess....

Glock 26. Although I've had little experience with that gun, It fits all the criteria I believe I would need. Double stack 9MMmag. Numerous carrying options. Glock engineering and reliability. upgrade and modification options. My 2 cents.

The one major benefit is that it is so easy to detail clean,lubricate and swap parts and reassembly takes less that a minute.

That was initially one of the reasons I purchased a P250 in 9mm,however the conversion kits are not exactly abundant and quite expensive once you factor in the costs of additional mags {most kits only come with 1 mag} that range from $45.00 to $33.00 each, but I love the gun and most people that fire it compliments the rather long pull trigger and ergonomics. I'll hang on to it and hope the conversion kits become more availible and less expensive,looking to buy a 9mm sub compact conversion in the future.

Well today was the day and she took to it like a duck to water and now wants to take the courses and improve her groups also, We were there at about midday and right from the get go she was impressed with the range and just how many families,couples and Ladies were shooting . I kept it casual and just let her get a feel for both guns at 5 then 7 yards while still stressing the safety aspect and used Malsua's analogy of the mini black hole, Thanks Gentlemen for all the direction and advice.

I am so sorry that Phil still has that problem, When I was last there he asked me to help him with that very same issue and I sent a detailed message to one of the forum's moderators, did not receive a reply so erroneously assumed that Phil was contacted and the problem was solved. Perhaps now someone can help Phil contribute his vast expertise to this forum?

I see.. perhaps said pie has been digitily camouflaged in order to prevent a Osama compound like insertion by armed and I dare say,hungry forum members?After all,there have only been rumors of the whereabouts of this elusive pie.

I'll do my best but she can be stubborn at times and has a mean left.

Pie?... What Pie?... I like Pie...Where's the pie?...Nobody told me about pie...

Shore Shot in Lakewood,I would love to be able to shoot up north and then take her to the Ironbound section to her favorite Portuguese Restaurant to celebrate but there's that reasonable stop while transporting firearms thing again.

Thank you Gentlemen, I have started my version of dry runs obviously with an unloaded pistol and using the basic principals I picked in classes and I just may pull this off.... then off to classes for her.

I'm lucky in the fact that she can take directions well and is enthusiastic, she's been around firearms most of her life{Father was a fighter pilot and gun enthusiast} but never showed an interest until now.

I will be taking my beautiful bride to the range soon and need some direction. I recommended that she take a NRA sanctioned safety course but she balked and wants me to run her through the basics.It has only been 6 months since I took similar courses myself and while I am confident I remembered and practice safe firearm handling, I am not as confident as to the teaching of said practices. It's akin to when I kept stealing the old man's car at 14 so he decided to teach me to drive and nearly browbeat me into the floorboards, so finally said "take the car but don't call me from prison or the clinic".I don't want to turn into my father so any hints would be appreciated.

I agree.

Picked mine up today. one is being shipped to Norway to piss off my Pro gun control brother.Thanks Maks.

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I for one tried so hard to give you the benefit of the doubt throughout this long and heated debate but now I believe it is time for you to reassess your participation in this and perhaps future treads on this forum. Instead of learning from obviously better informed members and saying your mea culpas, you have insisted on following one erroneous statement with another and another. I would urge you to follow your brother officer's advice, if indeed you are a LEO, desist for commenting any further least I, and others who were a little more charitable to your views lose all respect not only for you but those in your profession. You must understand that what ever you opine on from now on will probably be dismissed or even worse...Ignored and I don't believe that is what you set out to accomplish at the onset of this debate. We all don certain personas when conversing on line or in a forum... Yours unfortunately through your own fault and yours alone,in my mind is now "ASSHAT".

Epic....

The saga ends...congrats.

As would I.

I don't so much have an issue with the officer checking him out but do however have a serious problem with the way it was done... Yo Junior? I too have traveled extensively to carry states and while I have not seen a LEO question a OC, I venture there are less accusatory procedures taught in order for the authorities to fulfill their sword duties without violating a lawful citizen's rights. Bring up you tube and you will see several examples of LEOs doing just that with everyone walking away satisfied that no laws or rights were violated.

Look I truly believe that cops in some respect fight an up hill battle both against crime and public opinion and I for one haven't got a clue just what a LEO in a crime ridden urban environment has to deal with every day but even you have to admit that this incident could have been handled and defused more effectively but a police man with not only a better understanding of the law but a better understanding of human nature. This, in my mind was a clear case of a citizen exploring the boundaries of his rights and the law.... The LEO failed on both counts to uphold both and in the process only diminished the worth and respect of the dept.

While respecting your point of view,which I believe to be valuable pertaining to this incident and your experience. Have you ever encountered, let's say for the sake of argument, a perpetrator of a hold up or robbery casually walking down the street with a firearm prominently displayed on his hip?

Forgive my ignorance but how is what he did fundamentally different that let's say the Police setting up recorded John stings, or buy and bust? When it comes down to it I believe both parties hold some responsibility for this fiasco but as some LEO's are quick to point out, Police have to be held to a higher standard and for a Sargent not to be familiar with the basics of carry laws is in IMHO inexcusable. Now if I were to put myself in either man's shoes I would say that the officer should have recognized that perhaps something was amiss and he was being set up pretty much after the first few minutes and play it cool instead of reverting to a foul mouthed bully .As for the gentleman, If I was going to set up the Cops, I would have followed the policeman's instructions to the letter to dispel any question that I was resisting or being disrespectful. Again easy for me to speculate and in any tense situation emotion has a way of superseding logic or reasoning but is that not what our LEO's are indeed trained to guard against?