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I forget the model, but mine do not flip, though they have the windage adjustment. If you can, get the T-1000 series. They're liquid metal alloy and practically indestructible.

I have Tech Sights on a Marlin 795: had them for about 8 months, and they're great. Very well made. I didn't look at other brands because I'm not aware of anyone else who makes aftermarket sights for the 795. But after a thousand-ish rounds, no complaints and very accurate.

Thanks. Read this thread and was wondering also. I'd also like to join Old Bridge - hopefully in October or November. I've been doing Clinton WMA for archery - got my license even though I don't hunt. The range is nice and usually empty. But it's far, and I have nowhere to shoot longer ranges and larger rifles. Practice at Bayonne, but that gets expensive and hours are restrictive. Would like to move on past public ranges, and Old Bridge is only 40 minutes away. And from what I've read here, sounds like a good place.

10/22s are great. Tons and tons and tons of aftermarket products, though they also shoot fine out of the box. If you need low-down dirt cheap, you can also go Marlin 60/795. Brand new for $125, used for less. If new, ditch the plastic stock and grab a Boyd's Factory Second or other adult-sized stock for $60 bucks. After some fitting you have serious rifle that will measure up to anything two to three times it's price range.

Never been, but it did remind me of this video from when CZ got Tom Knapp to sell their shotguns. Looks like fun.

This.

Agreed. I don't know if individual hunted with it - just talked about it a lot. If he did hunt with his 454, then it's not a status symbol. If not, then I can see how some people might consider it to be one. I guess owning something because of what it is (not what you do with it or what you need it for) is how we can define "status symbol." One other thought: in many other countries with more restrictive gun laws, the simple act of owning a gun is itself a status symbol. Anyway, this is a really interesting topic for me - thanks for all the input from everyone.

Fair enough - idiot was too harsh. Though as strictly "status symbols," I still think these are like guys who are not really "car guys" but still want to own a Ferrari or Lambo because it was fastest around some test track - but they're not interested in track days, they just want to own "the best." My experience comes from this one guy who used to come into a bar I worked at. He was a big-game hunter guy and was a really nice guy - just that that everything handgun to him was .454. Our discussions would usually end with a something like: "Oh man, a 454 will end your life! One hit and it's bye bye! Anywhere on the body, an arm, a leg, done. A 45 is nice, but man, a 454 will kill you dead!" He also happened to be a real estate developer. People who hand load and the shooting enthusiasts on this forum are definitely not the kind of people to whom this thread is directed.

They're prohibiting us from owning fully auto UMPs. It's a vicious cycle.

OK I’ll play: guns as status symbol? Anything firing "novelty calibers" like .454 Casull or .50AE or .500 S&W - the stuff that few if any gun shops stock and costs $2.00 per round. Excluding serious collectors, these guns are likely owned by high-power divorce attorneys or real-estate moguls or other wealthy people who know little about guns but just want to be able to say they own the world's most powerful handgun. Among serious shooting enthusiasts, the ultimate status symbol is any pre-ban machine gun.

I hear you and I understand the slippery slope. To me, it depends on who "they" is and what that requirement are: if suddenly PDs start requiring three forms of photo ID, or mandatory waiting periods, or closing the permits department Monday, Wednesday or Friday, or things like, "we only accept applications on the first Monday of every month at 1:35 pm," then I believe ALL gun owners need to kick up their political and legal involvement. However, the last time I went to pick up permits, the person working the records department told me she was sorry we even had to do this, because, in her words, "There are thousands of gun owners in Jersey City, and the only ones we ever arrest are the criminals who don't bother buying guns legally." My permits weren't signed, so instead of telling me to come back, she went upstairs to get the signatures; we ended up shooting the breeze for 20 minutes. To me, this is divining between a busy police department and a legitimate encroachment of rights, and i think they're just busy. There are too many blatantly anti-gun politicians in NJ for me to worry about, so I'm willing to let this one go.

Almost a two years ago, when I went for my FID and first permit, JCPD told me the same thing - no handwritten forms (I had to re-do mine). Rather then get all salty, I politely asked why. The woman in the records dept. told me that they had so many problems with the state processing data wrong, the forms kept being sent back and it gummed up the paperwork process. She apologized for making me re-do my form, and said they know it's a pain, but that typed forums make everything faster. Truth? Lies? Secret plot to destroy the Second Amendment? Who knows. I've gotten three sets of permits since then. It takes about 2 weeks per set for me. I've also saved a PDF of all the forms, and I must admit, it's about 1000 times easier to print, sign and deliver. In the end, I think typed forums are just easier to read. Personally, I don't have a problem with it.

No worries! Should have been a smiley face or something after my last post - I do like the single six/ten guns and would have gone that route, but my wife likes our S&W 686, so we are going the 617 route instead. And since I already have a few 22s (including a 22/45), the Ruger got pushed down the list. Also, how great is it to have a significant other that enjoys and supports shooting?

In addition to the expert advice above, I also saw this: Sounds to me like you're looking for any reasons you should not buy the Ruger, and I have none: BUY THE RUGER! Great guns, dirt-cheap in .22, plenty of new and used options, and lots of fun. I've shot the Six a fair amount, and it's an excellent (and probably the best) choice given what you've said you want in a .22.

Better question, why do we believe every fly-by-night Internet report? From FOX News: http://nation.foxnew...o#ixzz26NVluxgG Further Marine spokesman at Pentagon Lt Col Chris Hughes says these reports are NOT true. This is on the record: “The Ambassador and RSO have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB Cairo."

Senna About Ayrton Senna, a Brazilian F1 driver who was three-time world champion and is considered by most F1 drivers to be the greatest driver of all time. Even if you know nothing about cars, F1 or racing, it's a phenomenal documentary.

I own a CZ 912 - no problems recommending the CZ brand. There are also a ton of other great brands, so I echo the advice to get the one that fits best. Also, check out a book by Chris Batha called Breaking Clays. It trumps all online research. Good luck & enjoy - it's a fun sport.

Don't forget chocolate bars. You will be able to trade them for anything. Saw this firsthand after Katrina.

CZ-75 BD in 2003. Went into a shop to buy a Glock & got talked out of it by a knowledgeable and extremely biased salesmen. Still have it; not going to sell it.

So I'm looking to buy my first handgun. Congratulations. One thing I've decided on is that it will shoot rimfire ammo in .22LR caliber because of the price of the ammo is low and I intend to shoot quite a bit with it and I don't plan on buying another handgun for a while (no guarantees on that!). .22 is a great first choice. Cheap ammo. Easy learning curve. Once you decide what you want to do - recreation, competition, cowboy action, etc. - you will move up to a larger caliber (and believe me, you will). Also I really like the Ruger SR22, if anyone has an opinion on that particular gun let me know please. The SR22 seems to be decently priced, high quality (Ruger!) and it shoots my preferred ammo. Ruger is a great brand. The SR22 is an excellent gun, and much better than the one you have now. Other reputable brands are S&W, Colt, and Browning (Buckmark). - Will it be hard to find? No. - Is shopping around worth it or it will be roughly the same price everywhere I look? As others have said, do a NJGF price quote. If you find a shop or dealer who is friendly and convenient, don't fret over a $20 or so. - Should I consider buying it on the internet (GunBroker etc)? For the first time, I would not. You might save a few bucks, but since you're new to the shooting scene, getting to know a shop will give you invaluable information on local facilities, events, and the shooting sports community. Plus if something goes wrong, you have a person to contact, not an e-mail address. Last time I was in a shop, a new shooter was buying his first gun and the salesman offered to meet the customer at the range that night and teach him all about the gun. You can buy online, but you shoot locally. After you have some experience, buying online is an absolutely viable option if you want a specific model or used bargain. Check out Caso's Gun-O-Rama in Jersey City. Prices are fair. They have a lot of the type of 22 you seem to be looking for, and they are some of the nicest people I've purchased from. I've also had good luck with several forum vendors here. Good luck.

Good article... convinced me to buy stock in Alcoa.

LOL I bought one box because the name was just ridiculous. The stuff isn't bad - it has a serious crack to it, though it throws groups high and right from my Savage. If i sighted it in, I think it'd be a great varmint load. Aguila is based in Mexico - I think they make good economy ammo I particularly like their 38 special JHP - very good groups from my S&W. Here's their website, if you want to click aimlessly and have no idea what you're reading, because it's in Spanish: http://www.aguilaammo.com.mx/

I agree there is a TON of misleading to downright false marketing in the ammunition world; however, I respectfully disagree about the term “high velocity” in regards to 22 ammunition manufacturers. The two major players in 22 ammo are “standard velocity” (1000 fps.) and “high velocity” (1,200 fps.) The “high” velocity is just in reference to the fact that it is faster than standard velocity. Unlike other calibers, “high velocity” is not necessarily better, more accurate or desirable, nor are “low velocity” rounds inferior. It depends on the action and purpose. Anyway, I posted this photo just to show that the "high" isn't a marketing thing - there are just so many different types of 22 loads. This is a photo of some of what I have in my safe. In the photo: Aguila Super Maximum Hyper Velocity – 30 grs., 1750 fps. Aguila Super Extra – 40 grs., 1200 fps. Aguila Super Extra – 38 grs. HP, 1200 fps. CCI AR Tactical – 40 grs., 1200 pfs. Remington Golden Bullet High Velocity – 40 grs., 1255 fps Remington Target Standard Velocity – 40 grs., 1150 fps. CCI Mini-Mag HP 22 LR HP – 38 grs. HP, 1260 fps. Eley HV Moving target – 40 grs., (collector’s item; I’m guessing it’s “high”) Aguila Golden Eagle Match Rifle (in the green Tupperware) – 40 grs. LRN, 1050 fps. ("velocidad estandar") CCI CB Long – 29 grs. LRN, 710 fps. (subsonic, low noise) CCI CB Short – 29 grs. LRN, 710 fps. (subsonic, low noise) CCI CB Short – 29 grs. Conical Ball, 710 fps. (subsonic, low noise) So a long-winded answer to the OP question, in modern bolt or lever guns in good condition, you can shoot pretty much anything, unless the manual says otherwise. Personally, I would not use anything faster in 1,200 fps. in my semi- rifles or pistols. If you have a crate of Stingers to dispose of, I vote get a bolt gun or a revolver and start shooting some cans. Good luck.

You know we're in trouble when two Connecticut Democrats are the last defenders of the 1911...

Having had two ARs (and seen/tried all the things friends have done with theirs) I second this advice.