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Fair enough. I believe there is a small, extremely anti-gun part of the population, a small extremely pro-gun part of the population, and unfortunately, both of them rely on fear marketing to advance their cause, which muddles the arguments I still think the majority of non-shooters, regardless of political leanings, are "up for grabs" when it comes to firearms ideology. I'm not a firearms guru or anything; I know the rules and I enjoy the hobby, though I have enjoyed the several opportunities I've had to introduce people to shooting. I try to remember not everyone was lucky enough to have a dad who teaches you to shoot at an early age.

Rather than "try to shut them up," why don't you invite them to go with you to the range? Whenever people who have no real knowledge of firearms shoot a gun for the first time, there is this "Ah Ha" moment when they understand that guns are just tools, and not good or evil, just tools. I've taken quite a few 'first timers' and it's always a good experience.

Ruger 22/45. Have one, love it. Most common praise from new shooters, in particular women, is, "I like that it doesn't 'move' around n my hand." There are a couple of 1911 .22s in stock at Caso's in Jersey City. I almost bought one.

No worries - I understand. And FYI, I still lust after a Colt SAA...

Ernest Hemmingway preferred polydactyl cats. So personally, I believe 7 shot revolvers are for those of us who are more enlightened. Anyway, I have a 686 P and it's amazing. Yes, you can get speedloaders. No, I don't compete. Seven shots. Six fingers. Sounds good to me. ()

OK - I was there 2:00 to 3:00. I forgot about this thread - I'll post here next time.

I was there Sunday the 18th. Anyone else?

Yes, I was. I haven't seen the SR1911 or gp-101 in 22, which I was was interested in... speaking of things that don't exist, how sweet would a Ruger 1911-22 be?

As a Ruger fan, I like it. Now, Ruger, will you please stop introducing new guns and start getting the PROMISED ONES ON THE D@#!M SHELVES ALREADY? I'm looking at you, SR1911 and SP101 in .22...

What do you want to do with it? Compete? Just have fun once every month? Remember that .40 and .45 are very expensive siblings... if 500 rounds gets you through a year, get whatever you like.

I agree with you... it sounds like that situation sucked bad and could have gone very, very wrong. Everyone just breathes a sigh of relief and says, "wow that was a close one." For all I might complain about the bad cops out there (and there are a lot), I try to remember it's still a tough job... and when I read about things like this I remember why I could never be a cop.

A lot of people like to fantasize about being placed in impossible hypothetical situations where the only way out is to kill somebody. The last time I stopped into Engage Armament (http://www.engagearmament.com), I overheard the following statement, from a customer: “So I’ve got a Glock, and if there was a perp in my house and I had to take a hostage rescue shot to save my son, I really want a silencer because I don’t to blow out his hearing, but I’m worried I won’t be able to see my night sights over the diameter of the silencer – what should I get?” The salesman played along with this fantasy. For me, I can't say, because it's just not my thing, sorry. But back to Staten Island, I wasn't there, so I don’t know what happened. However, my answer does not change: anytime a potentially life-threatening situation is resolved with both 1) no loss of life, and 2) justice being served, then amen. The hood rat perp trash are going to jail. Nobody died. NYPD and NYFD: job well done. Original Article: http://www.nypost.co...px6GyHTduvnhSWK Article quoted: http://www.nypost.co...eEAbplYogzBpL9I

From NY Post: "The melee unfolded around 3:30 p.m. on Harbor Road shortly after Angel Reyes, 19, and his fiendish friends showed up to threaten a 15-year-old girl who had refused to help Reyes in a fight at Port Richmond High School, where they are students, sources said. “I’m gonna f--- you up,” Reyes, 19, allegedly barked while aiming a BB gun at the victim. Two cops from the 120th Precinct responded, but were outnumbered and quickly knocked to the ground and kicked in their heads by Xiomara Reyes, 17, Anthony Concepcion, 17, Taniqua Pearson, 20, and Marisol Lugo, 31, court papers state. The firefighters came to their aid and the assailants, Reyes and a 15-year-old girl who allegedly hid the BB gun in her backpack were cuffed at the scene." The article also says they were all arrested for weapons, intimidation and gang charges. Not quite 50 teenage girls with guns and knives... though teenage girls are pretty scarry, with their slang and pop music and iPhones and all... Also, if you think cops should just open fire and kill lots of people to send a message, there are some places in the middle east you might want to check out Personally I think the response was beautiful.

Aguila makes a Hyper Velocity .22 hollow point - 30 gr. at 1750-ish fps. After conducting exhaustive scientific tests (wow this looks cool I think I'll buy a box for $2.75 from Natchez) I've determined it is a high velocity hollow point round that shoots fine in my 22/45. I've also determined this round has equivalent paper penetration capabilities as my 9mm CZ-75. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2506218194/aguila-super-maximum-ammunition-22-long-rifle-30-grain-hyper-velocity-plated-lead-hollow-point

My Vett in my profile pic? Swapped out the tranny and rebuilt the engine. And along with my dad (who is also super into cars) I bent lines for the fuel and brake systems, rebuilt the front and rear suspension, drive train and electrical systems. Of course, since I got married and moved to Jersey City and moved into an apartment, I drive a Subaru now....

Never heard of one, but I like it. I, too, believe shooting is about having fun, no matter what the critics/pundits/commentators/reviewers say... enjoy!

If the Sig makes you think, "Wow, I really want to go to the range and shoot this thing right now," get the Sig. Also, get a second permit and consider getting a .22 semi or revolver to accompany your Sig right off the bat. It gives you an excellent training platform to work on fundamentals for yourself (on the super cheap), with the added bonus you'll have a gun you're very familiar with when it comes time to teach your son. My thoughts, anyway. Good luck & have fun.

Glad to hear from another CZ fan. Bought my 75BD about ten years ago (LEGALLY) when I lived in a crummy row house in Baltimore. In the last few years, I've been amused as interest in these guns has skyrocketed. Personally, my CZ has been the only handgun I've kept this long, and I don't ever plan on selling it. Also, it's completely stock. Welcome aboard.

Fake. Please stop posting this.

I have a book that talks about this - although it's specifically about competition rifles. The author recommends cleaning from the breech forward only. He says it has more to do with protecting the target crown on the muzzle than anything else (avoid contact between the crown and the cleaning rod). Don't know if it's applicable to handguns.

JCPD is very cool.Had a long talk with a patrol officer who works there - about how the the FID is a waste because they never have problems with the registered users, just the illegal guns, bought in other stats that are smuggled in (*ahem* southern states). This officer was also an NRA member. Got my NJFID in about 5 weeks, but my second set of three permits in about 2 weeks, so it evens out.

I have a 686 P. It's sweet! I had second thoughts, but one trip to the range erased all doubt. That said, to second everyone else, get what makes your heart beat faster. Rugers are an American icon.

Nix the 617. Sweet gun, but it's heavy (over 40 oz, says the catalog). I have not shot one, so I have no experience with them, but the S&W 317 AirLite is a small-frame 8 shot 22 revolver that weighs 12.5 oz. I'm seriously considering one, as I'm looking for a small lightweight 22 revolver, hence the catalog on my desk. I have a Ruger 22/45, and it's also a great shooter - one of those guns you know you'll never sell or get tired of.

I was looking at these, for said apartment. http://www.zanottiarmor.com/safes.htm If my collection keeps growing (ok WHEN) I'll be picking one up.

I'm glad nobody got hurt. Sorry to ask, but what range? There's one in Bayonne, and one in Belleville, but none in Newark that I am familiar with.