Underdog

Libertarians, and even conservatives, desire to be left alone, to be independent and to take care of their families and their business. They believe that life isn't fair and that nobody owes them anything, and that they are responsible for their actions and taking care of their families. But the time for them not to get involved has passed. The enemy and its agenda need to be engaged full throttle. I see the main difference between the present-day labeling of conservatives and libertarians being that they are both fiscally conservative, but that conservatives tend to be socially conservative while libertarians are socially liberal. You cannot be a true conservative and be socially liberal. Libertarians want to live and let live. If it works and you are not harming anyone, then so be it. Conservatives focus more on principles. As an example, a conservative viewpoint would most likely differ considerably from a libertarian's viewpoint on recreational drug use, and their viewpoints differ a lot on the direction of our foreign policy. A conservative looks to a higher entity/order to guide him or her in his views and actions. In my estimation, a libertarian would be more like a classical liberal, while a modern liberal would be more like a statist. Our forefathers recognized the difference between these two poles and got to the essence of true libertarianism... and adapted that idea to creating a limited government and believing in personal freedoms tempered by personal responsibility and guiding principals. There are a number of great thinkers that guided them and brought them to their socially conservative views. In truth, there is very little difference between a conservative and a libertarian, but a huge difference between them and a modern liberal/progressive statist. The heart of a conservative is the heart of a libertarian. However, conservatives realize the need and the proper role of a limited government, while libertarians would rather not have any government involvement. The modern liberal, however, would put no restraint on government and tends to make decisions using emotions instead of logic. I am a conservative with libertarian leanings, but I am foremost a principled conservative.

RINO Senator Graham will ensure that we don't have constitutionalists nominated.

Ron Paul cannot win, and his foreign policies are dangerous and foolish to say the least. If he opts to run outside the party if he does not get the nomination, and if he opts to split the vote, then, just as Perot, he will show his true colors.

Simon Peter Sports in Andover orders from Davidsons and there are some nice deals, especially on quite a few Rugers... 10/22s, 22/45s, SRs... http://www.davidsons...e=dealer_prices Apparently the link doesn't work unless you are at Simon Peter's website. Put in the zip 07860 and select Simon Peter's Store and then the monthly specials. That's a great price on the P95...

As others have said, you should really look into revolvers... I would definitely consider getting two stainless double-action revolvers (a 22LR revolver and a .38/.357 revolver) Smiths are top-of-the-line, but I prefer the more tough Ruger revolvers any day. And, if you are on a budget, a Taurus would be quite nice, too. Some possible choices would be: .22LR S&W 617 10-shot Ruger SP101 8-shot Taurus 990/992 (992 is 22LR and 22WMR) .357 S&W 686 6 or 7 shot Ruger GP100 (army tank) New style Ruger SP101 (would be a nice twin to the 22 SP101 Older Ruger Security/Speed Six Older Taurus 66 .45 ACP S&W 625 IF you want an awesome 9mm semi-auto, then look into the Baby Eagle II full-size, compact, or subcompact or a CZ75 or one of its siblings. I like the Taurus 650/651 snubbies for carry guns. I would like to get one with a Crimson Trace Grip. They do the job, they are relatively inexpensive... and if they were ever carried and you had to give one up, you wouldn't be out a lot of money.

I saw a poster outside YOJ Sports in Andover advertising Vizsla pups for sale.

There is a big difference between Libertarian and Conservative. I would take either over the present Schumer that keeps hitting the fan, but I am a conservative. Paul is not a conservative and his foreign polices are dangerous.

If any of you are foolish enough to believe that this ideologue has not, outwardly and by government fiat and unconstitutional actions taken away more of our liberties than just about any other commander-in-chief, if any of you are foolish enough to believe that this radical-in-chief is not up to gun control, if any of you don't believe that the arms that our government allowed to walk to Mexico were part of a plan, and which were put in into the hands of criminals here and abroad to inflict more suffering on us, if any of you don't believe that that plan came down from the top and that that was part of a master plan for gun control and to continue to make us completely subservient to the government, then you really are foolish. It was calculated and the lives of many will continue to be the collateral in putting forth this plan. The thing is that that particular man, arrogance and all, by himself is not up to what he has been unleashing on us. He is being directed. The RINOs are following the same orders. This is a plan to deflate the world economy, to create a one-world government, and to control every facet of our lives, whether it be light bulbs, toilets, thermostats, happy meals... It is put forth in such a way to make it look like it is being done for us and our general welfare. In order to fully bring this about, gun control must be enforced everywhere. We must all be controllable by the government. And it is in the works. It has to happen in the US first, for the rest of the world to follow suit. Whether it is to make ammunition scarce, to ban guns outright, to enact a UN Small Arms Treaty making guns illegal, to start by banning .50 caliber rifles... whether it is to harass and tax us to the point of not owning guns, to brainwash the people to believe that they don't have the right or the need to defend themselves, this is all part of the plan and IT is all being done to ultimately control the people. If you cannot see this. If you won't see this. If you are secretly waiting for it because you believe that humans cannot help themselves, and if you are thinking that this president has not purposefully harmed our economy and eroded are jobs, if you think that gun control is not in the works, if you think the Constitution, whether imperfect or not, is being undermined and the idea that our government has limitations is being undermined, if you think that the media/government entity is not saturating our media with anti-gun sentiments, if you think that Obama-care is about healthcare, then you will be in a sad place when your children and your children's children are subjects of the state and a distant few decide how you MUST live. I for one believe in placing limitations on government, and I believe in living as freely as possible while living with others in a civilized manner. Most of the people that we elect do not. They see us as needing to be controlled. And, in fact their policies have done everything imaginable to make us more dependent and subservient. I can only believe that the sheep either need someone to lead, or they are really unintelligent and oblivious to what is going on. I will not give up that easily!

I like the Mark III Hunter and the SIG 1911-22 about equally. I like the solid feel of the Mark III. I do not like cleaning the Mark III, although it isn't too bad if I follow along on Youtube when doing it. The SIG (GSG 1911) is just plain fun to shoot. It was a little picky with Ammo until it was broken in, but now it shoots just about all of the cheap stuff as long as it is high velocity. I do not like the stock sights on it, and I don't think it is nearly as durable as the Ruger. I want to put a standard 1911 adjustable sight on the rear and a fiber optic one on the front, but haven't gotten around to it, yet. I have heard a little filing is necessary to install the 1911 rear sight. If I could update the sights, it would be my favorite, but in a SHTF time and place, I would want the Ruger Mark III. A buddy has the 22/45 and I like it, but not as much as the all-steel Mark III. For durability, get the Mark III. For fun, get the GSG 1911. If you want to compromise, get the 22/45 and call it a day. Personally, though, I find a stainless 22LR double action revolver much more enjoyable at the range for a variety of reasons. I wish Ruger would come out with a 10-shot Ruger GP100 22LR with a combo 22WMR cylinder. I'd get rid of all of these and buy a 5" Ruger GP100 and call it a day. Heck, I might even get a princess S&W 617. I might get the M&P if I had a center-fired one that was a primary gun, but if I wanted that style, I would probably look at the brand spanking new Ruger. Ruger knows how to make 22LR stuff.

I wonder if the police supervisor checked to see if she had her papers.

It was a phone call placed to a dealer and then the dealer made a follow-up call back to me with details.

The Swiss also control a lot of wealth and even the rogue countries need a neutral place to hide wealth.

I gave the model # right off of the Ruger website and $499 is what came back. There should not have been ANY confusion in what I was asking about. As far as I am concerned, that is a rip-off price, considering that the suggest price is $399 and it should be at least a little lower than that. I purposefully did not give out the vendor's name, but I am dissatisfied with that price to say the least.

I wonder how much of the us and them mentality is brought into the job and how much of it is developed while doing the job.

Obama cannot win a second term. Everyone needs to get involved and make him a one-term Czar. Everyone needs to get involved and participate in bringing back to a limited, constitutional government with whoever gets elected. If you are not giving your all to making that happen, then be quiet when more bad things happen. Speak out... Write letters and editorials.. Hold companies and individuals accountable if they lend support contrary to your views Talk to your friends and family... Support the opposition candidtate This is our country, and a democratic republic must have actively engaged citizens to survive.

A local vendor said he could get one in in about 5 days and that it would be $499. If I was in the market for one, I might be willing to go as high as $375 for one, but I would never pay $500 for one when I could get an all-steel Mark III or even a 22/45 for around that price. Maybe Ruger wants to phase out the more pricey ones and replace with polymer. Anyway, if that is the street price for these, they can keep then.

It's "made" in the USA... This might be the perfect 22 handgun to introduce children. It is lightweight and with the smaller grip will probably be ideal if it is reliable.

I would love to get a very rare dog in this country, a rough-haired Slovakian pointer, which would be very similar to a rough haired Weimer... or a Pudelpointer or Wire Haired pointing griffon because they don't shed. My wife loves Vizlas but they shed. They should be good with children. http://www.slovakian...terclub.org.uk/

If the American people allow the Czar-in-Chief more influence on this nation's future, then they will surely get what they deserve. That also will stand if they believe in a RINO as well.

Make sure you buy all the guns you want before moving back. If you want a handgun or two that you don't have, get them and/ or trade them before getting here. It will be easier to buy before you get here and get pistol permits, etc. You may want to give the forum a heads up where you will be moving too so that they can give you pertinent information about what to expect from the local law enforcement in terms of getting an ID, etc.. The police dept. may give you a registration form, but it is optional. Bring all pertinent paperwork showing you are the owner and when you bought, though. If you are stopped and they take your guns, you may need to try and get back.

If it works flawlessly, it might just be the best budget 22LR out there. Currently, I don't have room for another 22, but if the Mark III continues to be a little finicky, I just might. Since Ruger has the market on 22s and it had a little flub with the growing pains of the SR-9s, I don't think this little gem will be a flop. It still reminds me more of a Walther than a Taurus. I want one.

Well, I will take one so I can compare the two. I don't think it will replace the Mark III and 22/45. They should have made it the same as an SR9 in size and shape. It looks too much like a Walther but probably better; I like it with the aluminum slide.

Check out this new low-end bolt rifle. It would be really nice if it had the option of iron sights... http://www.ruger.com...ifle/index.html

Check out the new Ruger SR22! http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=as8kgedab&v=001Odyl7ekdr1Y6zCVsZf6BYQUO5Mcnx_1QdpRUFbknw73aBbvlrDmA1rBa0BxVTYmLQ_C9ssl_Vi5G--hH7OChnkE68C6nPujXbiji-t_ACA7XbD1gU5AY_EIU0mXCsv-QDvkx9UCWNXcjf0n5vQFP-eUTSYkkh7QY6W5reuSi52S2xMUE8KXOUw%3D%3D

Does anybody have experience with a Beretta PX4 double-action only? I would like to find a full size or compact PX4 preferably in stainless with 15-round magazines and the ability to remove the front sight, aftermarket TFO sights and a decent concealed carry holster. Does it exist? Does anybody have experience with one? Where can I find one? If I got the standard "F" version, can it be converted to DAO only? Do all the of them come with a safety/decocker? Can a Stoeger Cougar 8000 be converted to DAO?