Underdog

You sold me on the 228! If one comes up in our travels, I will certainly suggest she entertain it. Thanks!

Depending on the condition, etc. might be willing to pay $625 and/or make a trade... Let me know if you want to sell.

We have checked out a number of guns in 9mm for my wife's first handgun: Ruger GP100 (.357), Ruger Service Six (.357), Beretta 92, Beretta 92 Compact, Beretta PX4, Glock 19, Glock 17, SA XDM Compact, SIG SP2022, SIG 229, Ruger SR9, Ruger SR9C S&W M&P 9, S&W M&P 9C, H&K, Walther PPQ.... She did not want a revolver, which I suggested. Next, I suggested a Glock, and she didn't want one of those. Instead, she wanted a Beretta largely due to its use in a couple of military books she read and because she likes the looks, its history, etc. However, it just doesn't fit her hand well enough. She seems to like the idea of a safety and DA/SA. She didn't like the XDM and its grip safety. She didn't like the SIGs because of the lack of a safety but they felt pretty good in her hand. The fact that they have a decocker didn't matter to her, either. The Ruger SR felt OK, but she liked the PX4 feel, better. She thought the Walther was ugly. She did like the weight of the SIG 229, though, but again, the price and the lack of safety... I suggested she really consider a S&W M&P full size, and maybe one with a thumb safety could be found, as they probably aren't that popular. She is still coming back to the Beretta PX4. I have suggested that since she likes the weight and an all-metal gun, that maybe a Stoeger Cougar 8000 or 8000 Compact might be good for her as well. Or, maybe we can find a used Beretta Cougar. She was interested and would like to try one, but she was a little reserved and still went back to the PX4. So, after all that, I think she is leaning toward a PX4 Compact. I can only seem to find one locally in .40S&W. Since she wants a Beretta 92, I wish we could find a Vertec model with the smaller 1911-style grip. I'm really not sure why Beretta would have discontinued these, unless there was a mechanical issue, as I think they would be more popular than the larger Beretta grip. So, now I have to find a PX4 Compact... in 9mm and some magazines. If anybody has a strong opinion about this gun... ability to find night sights, magazines, etc., or has a reason to get the full-size, instead, please advise. I like the Compact because it takes 15-round magazines. The full-size Stoeger does as well. Please provide opinions on the Stoeger or the Stoeger 9mm compact as well. Will the Stoeger share the same magazines as the older Beretta Cougar? I guess, now its time to try shooting them.

Since no questions are asked, I would be willing to believe that there are staged turn ins, say of already-confiscated guns... Nice publicity stunt to show an AR or AK, etc.

Given up? You have a responsibility to our children to stand firm! Many have sacrificed much for our bleeding nation. They didn't just give up!

Well, there aren't too many in stock.

I fear this is NOT about the next election and the next vote. The assembly could care less about the freedom and rights of the American people and the Constitution. And, Washington is the same. They have already made up their minds and made that clear, and they know that they have the sheeple, the special interests, and a large chunk of NWO cash to bankroll them. Make no mistake, this is a coordinated attack. And, they are all aware of their respective parts and playing their specific roles, especially in the statist-ruled, dependency-laden infected states in this nation such as California, Illinois, New York, and of course, New Jersey. Right now the board is set up, the opening move has been played and the game is all being coordinated to take away our individual freedoms, and especially the right to keep and bear arms. We the People have to use whatever means, legally and peacefully that we can to defeat these politicians and the agenda that they have put in motion. But, unless we let the following sink in, we won't be have the right strategy developed to stop them. Our main weakness is that we underestimate these people and their cunning plans. We try to make sense of the daily attacks on liberty based on past political checkers, etc. and we foolishly believe that these political thugs are concerned about being reelected. THEY ARE NOT and that is KEY to developing our strategy. I cannot stress this enough, but this is something new to our nation and needs to be internalized. As much as the politicians can work toward their reelection of course, as they have practiced doing so in a self-serving way, they will attempt to do so, but they are much more concerned with bringing forth their agenda, and convincing us and would like you to believe they are concerned with reelection so that we focus your energy on that model. But, the key is that the political leaders of this movement that call the shots, they are fully aware of the coming economic collapse, and I am talking both sides of the aisle. They most likely have a time-table for it to happen already planned out (just as the events back in the summer of 2008 when the housing market was scheduled to pop). THERE ARE ALREADY TRIGGERS in place to topple it whenever they choose to do so, and they have been working diligently toward it for almost the last hundred years, patiently biding their time and then picking up the ball and running feverishly at the last minute. Yes, this newer crowd longs for the gratification of finally bringing it about. Well, the time has come, and they are ready, but they need more control, a little more assurance. In order to go ahead with the plan, they need to have much more control over the people, especially the armed, and libertarian and Constitutionally focused citizens that believe in individual rights and freedom. They are also concerned about the undead sheeple hordes that have put them into power and what they might do once the zombie hierarchy of needs and wants aren't being met. Our leaders are bent on disarmament and are willing to risk all of their political capital to do so. THEY ARE BETTING ON THE FACT THAT THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN WILL happen soon. That will enable them to put martial law, in place. Are all politicians in on it? No, but the ones strategically placed in positions of power on this board certainly are. The American people are being played. The torch of liberty is but a brief candle and almost out. Checkmate is coming. And, if you care to look into this for yourselves, you will seek your proof in all of their actions. Take for example the Governor of NY. In putting forth that draconian set of laws, he knew that it would hurt him if he ran for president in the future. But, he is willing to make that sacrifice. However, a calculation was made and he was told to make the move... toward a foreshadowing of another future for our country, an alien future from the principles that made this country great. It would be conditioning in NY. It would be a microcosm to see how this game could be played out across the country. These people are serious that We the People and our relationship to our government will be forever changed. Cuomo was willing to be a sacrificial pawn in the chess game that they have forced upon us, and we still think we are playing Candy Land. To them, the ends justify the means, and Cuomo knows that he will be rewarded. Christie was assigned his part to play as well and he will seek his just rewards.

Simon Peters had an FNS-9 in stock.

Are the FNS compacts available, yet?

If anybody has seen any M&Ps or Glocks in 9mm for sale anywhere, or a Ruger SR22, please advise.

Is that policy on each gun? It seems like it might be the way it is written. As a constitutional right, I think tax payers should be able to deduct 100% of the premiums from their taxes. Can't we require politicians to have insurance against corruption, etc? Surely it should be several thousand dollars a year as well. It might get expensive for some of them, though, because they don't always pay taxes. And, perhaps we should invite them in for some tea in Washington State as we discussed these continued assaults on personal freedom and as we read the fine print: Sheriffs can inspect homes for safe gun storage in Washington state ... I agree with you completely, Malsua, I fear that these reckless and irresponsible politicians and foes to our nation will have blood on their hands.

This is what happens when liberal schumerheads get into public office.

Get people around you on board. Figure out a subtle way to get them to think about the abuse of power, the unconstitutional behavior, that this has nothing to do with the tragedy in Connecticut, etc.. Bring someone to a range.

M&P Shield, summer. Glock 19 the rest! Would consider a G23, M&P 9C, or a G30S.

Id say it would be pretty nice with some G21 backup mags! I'd like one, too.

I went in in good faith and the whole process which I followed exactly and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe that was all part of the weeding out process but I didn't like it.

With the prices of ammunition what they are and the lack of ability, has anybody used CO2 guns for practice/fun, etc.? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac6mew_oRY4 I would probably pick up one of these for me and the kids to use if it was durable, and if it didn't require burning up a permit.

I took the test for Border Patrol Agent and got an almost perfect score, but then decided that I didn't want to work for the government because it cannot be trusted. After jumping through hoops and being herded like an animal, and being treated with little regard, in the end I decided it was not for m being just a number and at the mercy of every community organizer for my continued employment.

This shortage will put shops out of business.

I would love to come across one.

Does that have the 1911 style grip?

Thanks for sharing. This is why there can be no compromise.

Does anybody have any experiences with the Beretta 92 Vertec in 9mm? Has anybody seen any of them for sale? Are magazines available? Did they make a stainless model?

I'd like to try one of the new Ruger 45s, and if they made a 15-round magazine for the SR9, I would get one.

I think one of the problems is that gun owners need to come out of the closet. And, as many above have stated... we have already compromised. In another generation, regardless of ANYTHING we do, if we don't capture the children and bring them up the right way, if we don't increase the respect for and private ownership for over 50-60% of the population, there will be no stopping those that would infringe on the Bill of Rights. There is little stopping them now, except if the gun owners across the land united, they would have a formidable strength to stand up against this tyranny.