Underdog

This! Of course, the children! Lets go after senior citizens that have a clean record and want to protect themselves and single women, too. Lets endeavor to include "minorities" too, and of course the children. Lets offer lessons to tourists that come from other countries so that they can see what its like in a less oppressive country when they come to visit, and just as you have to register for the draft when you become of age, why not mandate a free NRA class for anyone that wants to attend. NRA members would probably love some of their money to go to this.

+1000 for Ray.

Get a compact glock 23 and some g22 mags. Then get a loan wolf conv. Barrel for 9mm. Not going to loose much in accuracy and more versatile. Could also use 15 round g19 mags. There is a G23 or two on the forums.

Silence...

If it was me, I'd keep everything you can, as you need to pass them to your children with a copy of the Constitution. If you want to get rid of something, consider upgrading... 92FS for a 92A1 Stainless, PX4 for a new 92FS Compact, and so forth. And, besides, firearms are tools. You have a couple of combat handguns... Beretta 92 and 1911. Check and check. You have a shotgun. Check. You have a concealable handgun, Keltec. Check. You have a 22 rimfire rifle. Check. You have a carbine, CX 4. Check. Instead of getting rid of them, why not get a bolt gun? Or, a nice heavy revolver? And, it seems you need some kind of .22LR handgun. The coming fight might require more than just money.

Yeah, lets teach it to high school students, but it couldn't be administered by the schools and the education associations and the state. NRA...

They are used to us giving in to shut them up for a little while, while they plan the next covert action against our nation, its institutions, and the people. It would be ridiculous, absurd, to give them ANYTHING. Why do you think they have 42 bills? They are hoping that some stick, to continue the movement toward disarmament and enslavement. The statists are running rabid in our state houses, schools, media, accident chasers and continuously attacking anyone that doesn't agree with their agenda. Trade them this! We will let them take what little pension and pay they have accumulated screwing We the People when the door whacks them in their asses on the way out.

I think they should support the Sheriffs that are standing strong with the people and the Constitution.

CZ 75 SA available! It's hard, been looking for a new Beretta 92FS Compact for my wife.

I don't either. The only thing we have going for us is that sometimes CC surprises. As a general rule, Christie and all RINOs have trouble doing the right thing when the stakes are high, such as when the future of individual liberty is at stake.

We should write Mainor and let him know that although it was his meeting, it is OUR building and he works for us. Let him know we expect him to be courteous and respectful to our fellow citizens. Let him, and the rest of them know that we vote, and have lots of funds to backup our choices.

Some thoughts provided by someone that prepared for the ammo shortage.... Out of Ammo? Not Quite

Here is a possible rough draft: As a citizen of New Jersey, I am very troubled by the proposed bills that are being discussed on February 13, 2013, at the State House in Trenton. Upon examining the bills, it is apparent that they are not designed to make schools safer, and they aren’t designed to make the general public safer, either, but rather, these proposed laws are designed to be a direct assault on the citizen, the legal property of the citizen, the right of the citizen to protect him or herself, and on the 2nd Amendment. The only groups of people these laws will benefit are the criminal element amongst us, and the self-serving politicians that would put politics ahead of the people and the people’s safety that they were entrusted with. These laws have little or no impact on criminals, and they do not have an impact on improving school safety. They do not address any meaningful thing that could be done to deter another tragedy like that in Connecticut from happening again, but rather, they put the honest, law-abiding citizen at risk and open that citizen and his or her family to further legal and criminal jeopardy, while increasing the likelihood of the citizen and his or her family of becoming another statistic and a further victim of violence. These proposed bills are not “reasonable”, rather, they represent an unprecedented power grab by government officials of this state who support these bills. I implore you to move cautiously, examine the facts, and to listen to the people that these bills would affect. With a reasonable, measured approach you would come to the conclusion that we need to enforce the laws that are already on the books, and, in many cases change some of those laws we already have that are unjust, irresponsibly written pertaining to controlling firearms in this state. Focus your attention on improving our state and actually protecting its Citizenry and the unalienable rights of the people. As a voice speaking for many, I call to you. NO ADDITIONAL GUN CONTROL FOR NJ. NO ADDITIONAL GUN CONTROL FOR NJ. PERIOD!

You are also missing a 'not' in there after law abiding citizens.

I wonder if the Brady Bunch had anything to do with this?

Here is a video to convert the standard magazines to 15-round magazines. This should work with either the GSG or the SIG: http://nictaylor00.blogspot.com/2012/11/gsg-sig-1911-22lr-basepads-and-followers.html

Make sure you know the policies. Apparently there are some up here in Northern NJ that will charge you a monthly or weekly fee to keep your gun. Perhaps they don't have the room, or perhaps some people have severely abused them with unreasonable time lengths, or they are overwhelmed with the number of additional guns being held for others, etc. However, in general, to my thinking these FFLs work within the challenging NJ environment and should have much better customer service, especially with their repeat customers. Still, there should be an agreement in place as to when you will pickup, etc., what your responsibilities will be, etc. and what will happen if you are not able to pickup, etc. And, if you are taking advantage of the FFL you should be charged. As with many things, some people ruin it for everyone, and I imagine that some FFLs have been burned before by their customers. But, there are also FFLs that will attempt to abuse their customers as well. One in particular was actually selling the gun on Gunbroker and would not hold it free of charge without an additional $10 weekly fee of 3-4 weeks due to OGAM restrictions, and the FFL charges, etc. were more than others locally. This additional storage fee would have tacked on at least $40 more dollars on the item already sitting in his safe. In another example, the new firearms are clearly labeled with a price, and then when you go to pay you are charged an additionally shipping charge of $25.00, and which I think you are also taxed on. To me, these two things are unacceptable. Either the FFL is that hard up and nickels and dimes for everything, or the dealer feels he doesn't need my business. And, if the business is hurting, then it might very well be because these practices are foolish and lead to a lot of lost business.

Coe not needed for handgun, only long guns.

You will need FID card # of seller (which is one seller's FID card). Buyers should be on pistol permit. You should each have NJ driver licenses, and buyer's address needs to match permit. Seller's address needs to match addresses handwritten in on permit. The seller has (5) days to get the copies to the respective state police and buyer's issuing agent (local state police barracks or local PD department).

And, in the meantime, you can find a nice Mossberg 500... I would say nicer quality, probably more aftermarket parts, and has a safety on the tang.

I believe there is "title" to the gun and property ownership. The gun belongs to who is titled to it and who "possesses" it, but there is also a value to it which the husband and wife share which would come into play with an estate or say a divorce, however, the titled person isresponsible. And inparticular with a handgun it cannot be taken to a range without the titled person being present.

Ruger all the way. Or a Smith & Wesson 686. On a budget Taurus 66. Older Ruger Six Revolvers (Security, Service, Single) would be really nice too.

I wouldn't buy anything from the SB... I put a substantial down payment on a handgun and it was sold to someone else. That clown owner lied to me and said he sent it back to the manufacturer. Due to OGAM and it being the last couple days that I could use the permit that had already been renewed, when I went in to pick it up it wasn't there and I was unable to find another one before my permit ran out. And, Mr. Happy never bothered to call me and let me know it was no longer available. All of this was after I had explained to him when putting the down payment when I would be in and why, and that I had a small window. And, when he saw I was upset, to say the least, he refunded me my money and shrugged his shoulders. He didn't make a counter offer with something he had on stock, etc. It was like, Oh well. And, to make matters worse, I had been a good repeat customer. Now, I am not. I'm glad you had a good experience there, though.

Perceptions are everything. I will be assisting my wife in getting her first gun in the next month or so, and I have learned a lesson through this experience. I will be going with her, but I will be careful as to not raise any red flags by talking too much, etc. As a side note, I wonder if this situation would have been different had the husband had the FID and the wife came in and did all of the talking.

I wonder how many of your fellow forum members will call Shore Shot and express displeasure at this.