Underdog

I like the baby Glock, but as you said, this is much thinner and just feels right. However, that is subject to the person holding it, and I could see how it wouldn't work for someone with large hands. The M&P Shields seems to point very nicely as well.

It is slightly higher than the M&P 9C with the larger grip, but significantly thinner. It is hard for me to conceal and that extra fitness makes a difference. I wonder if Glock will ever make a single stack. Now, what they should do is make a single stack one and finally make a .22 conversion for it and sell as a package. Are you listening, Glock? $650 for a single stack 9 or .40 w/ a .22 conversion slide... Since it wouldn't be compatible with the other Glocks and mags, etc. it would make sense for them to capture this market.

Harassment at its finest. If they want to get a "new" file, then perhaps they should toss out the old one.

Hear, Hear, sounds like a good plan.

I like it so much, I would love it if S&W came out with a .22LR Shield. The Shield isn't for everyone, but for me it feels just right.

The Shield has it all over the Nano and the PPS, and I think the trigger is better than the Kahr. In my opinion, its competition is the thicker baby Glock and the Ruger SR9C. And since they are much thicker, it is in a different category. It is much more shootable than the Nano or the PPS. It functions more like a compact instead of a semi-compact, and yet it is more concealable.

The out-of-state handgun rule is a Federal rule.... Not NJ.

I have a Shield and it is a very nice gun and I am quite pleased with it. For someone with large hands, or a lefty, it might not be as suitable, and it definitely needs some grip tape on it. The safety really isn't an issue for me at all. I guess not having it might be better, but I am perfectly happy with having it. It goes on with a solid click. I cannot really put it back off without changing grip, but that is not that important as reholstering it would be slow and careful. I don't think it could be put on accidentally. And, if it was never used, I don't think that would be an issue. However, since it's on there, I train with it. It has nice quality sights and the sight radius is maximized for additional accuracy. And, the recoil is very manageable for such a small gun. I would like to see how one in .40 S&W handles it. With the short barrel, it is loud, though, when shooting at the range. It is a little bigger in size than a S&W M&P 9C or a baby Glock in terms of height, but it is a lot thinner, and for me, that makes it much easier to conceal. The trigger is a toss up. To me, at 6.5 lbs, I feel it could be a little lighter (especially with a thumb safety) but I do like it. Is it as nice as a Ruger SR9C's trigger? NO. But It has a nice clean break and you have more of a Glock-type reset than on other M&P pistols. Maybe it is just me, however, but when shooting it and pulling back on the trigger, the front moves a little, especially when you don't have a full magazine. The striker spring/mechanism seems to be doing that,as the striker is released. I am sure it will wear in and be a little better, but truthfully, and, truthfully I would like an Apex trigger installed in it if that would help. The trigger isn't that bad, and for such a small gun it is quite combat accurate (and the trigger is part of that) and it is quite comfortable to shoot at the range with the larger magazine with the extra grip purchase. It hasn't happened to me, but with quick reloads, I could see where someone might have to be careful about not pinching the web of the hand between the magazine and the frame. I'm not the greatest shot, but with the first magazine shooting it, I was easily able to put all 8 shots in a 9" plate at 50 feet. It is definitely quality made and has been completely reliable with the first 4 or 5 boxes put through it. I would like to see Tru-Glo TFO sights available for it, and a larger magazine that could be added to it in a pinch or for reloads 12-15 rounds... I like this gun a lot and to me and the way it feels in my hands, the trigger, and all, it is a keeper. I liked it much better than the Beretta Nano and even the Walther. I think it is an awesome value at the selling price! And, it cannot be compared apples to oranges. The total package and feel of it is that good and I am very pleased with its accuracy and pointing ability. Again, if I had largish hands, I probably would not like it that much. Could it be a little better? sure... but it is sweet.

Not that it matters, but 3 was really only part of 2 in my thinking when I wrote it. But I'll go with 5.

An STI Spartan in 9mm might be a nice 1911 to start with if you are set on one... When you apply, get at least a couple extra permits just to be safe.... I'd suggest getting 5.

Split the difference and get one in .40 S&W and a 9mm conversion barrel, such as a Glock 23, S&W M&P 40 or 40C, or a SIG 250... Decent bang, little less cost (.40) and a lot less cost with 9mm) and a lot of versatility... I think there were a couple of .40s on sale in the market area if you want a full-size... Consider a used gun, especially for first gun is a good idea... If it is not for you then you don't take an incredible hit. In my opinion, although it isn't the most fun to shoot, the best all-purpose combo out there: Glock 23 w/ 9mm conversion barrel and some G19 magazines, TruGLO TFO sights, Advantage Arms .22LR Conversion Kit, and a Crimson Trace Laser Grip. If you want, you can also get an additional barrel in .357 SIG., and you can use 15-round Glock 22 magazines... All you would need beside that is something in .45 ACP, your 1911, and maybe a dedicated .22LR. Look for a used Glock 23 in perfect condition for about $450. You can go from there.

My PD is pretty good with issuing permits and in a timely and orderly fashion. When I first applied, I needed to meet with the detective. It was a five minute ordeal. When I reapplied for permits, I had to meet with the new detective assigned for just the initial permit that he presided over. Now, I am in the clear. I imagine if a new person takes over, I would have to meet with him or her, too. It was cool. He stopped by my house at my convenience one night. Seems somewhat logical if he is just putting a name to the face and he is the one signing off. And, he called me right away when he attempted to check with my place of employment and they were going to charge him $20.00 for whatever he needed as verification from them. He was OK with speaking with a coworker, instead. All he asked was if I was employed there.

S&W M&P40 (compact or full size) Walther PPQ Beretta 92FS - Need to have medium to large hands... I think the CZ 75 grip feels better. If you get the Beretta, get one with removable front sight... 92A1, etc. I would avoid these unless you find a fabulous deal... S&W 5904 (can be had for about $250 used) FNP 9, 40, 45 - with the 9mm version you would be limited to 10 round magazines. If you really want an FN in 9mm, see if you can find an FNP-9M

I agree, I don't think it is the norm on the forum. However, I think there is an agenda to divide the citizen and the LEO in this culture and with the laws, etc. and every once in a while that comes out on the forum in some form or another.

There are four reasons for the perception of an anti-leo vibe, however, I don't find this forum to be anti-leo. I wish more officers would come on here... One, LEOs can defend themselves and the honest, law-abiding citizen cannot Two, owning guns in NJ is basically against the law, with a few excemptions and LEOs sometimes aren't on the side of the individual and the 2nd Amendment right The citizen has to dot his "i"s and cross his "t"s with everything he or she does, and even if the law is followed to the letter, he can still find himself in alphabet soup. Third, many LEOs perpetuate an "us" and "them" mentality and become suspicious of everyone and see themselves more as law enforcement than peace officers. Some LEOs on this forum sometimes come across as having a chip on their shoulders. Four, there is a hypocritical side sometimes. LEOs giving tickets and then speeding themselves, or pulling someone over for talking on a cell phone when they do it all of the time.

Now, I am not into conspiracies as you know, but its possible from the inception there has been a collaboration and relationship of sorts with careful thoughts as to participation. If that were even remotely true, hopefully, there is no political agenda. Even without a collaboration, there would most likely be monitoring of something of this nature and all of this would be done at the state level. .

Same happened to me. When I finally called them, they actually had the gun at my door that day... not big on follow-up, but the actions were there... And, they did follow the schedule that they had promised.

There is an adapter available to use a AA Kit for a GEN 3 with a GEN4 frame. The Remington Golden Bullets work very well for me as well.

Yeah, shoes, toys for kids, etc., they won't be around in 10 years. Unlike triggers and barrels and mags.

Maybe we wouldn't have to buy in bulk if the cost of becoming a firearms owner wasn't so high... NICS, Fingerprints, Transfer Fees, Nappen's tomb, etc. Extra gas because you cannot stop on your way home from the range to pickup groceries or go directly from work... etc. It's time to harass our politicians instead of letting them harass us.

For its price and to use it as a plinker it might be worth a shot. However, I would spend more and get the Taurus 992 combo, instead. Or find a Ruger Single Six combo in single action.

I would like a CZ 75B DA/SA

I'm looking for ideas for a local romantic weekend getaway... Possible aActivities of interest would include Yoga, Horseback riding, movies, access to a swimming pool, eclectic shopping, kayaking...

It doesn't exist, but I want a S&W M&P Shield in .22LR with steel sights. That would be an awesome gun.

One last note from me... .22 revolvers are a pain to clean. I find cleaning larger bore center-fired revolvers much easier and even fun. I can't say I "enjoy" cleaning the Ruger Mark, but cleaning a semi-auto with one barrel such as a S&W M&P 22 or SR22 that is removable and not 6, 8, 9 cylinders, etc., is a much quicker and more fun activity than trying to clean a .22 and get that cleaning tool in there and in using those tiny cotton swabs. Maybe its me, but I don't enjoy it. I would rather clean a Glock that takes all of 4-5 minutes doing a stellar job and just a few patches.