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Thanks for clearing it up. I wasn't aware that all plated bullets were not alike. Researching these things is dangerous on my wallet. Just when I think I figured it out and ordered a case, someone points me to a new brand/vendor. Whoever said reloading saves you money is a damn liar, but I do get to shoot more which is always a good thing. I guess I now have Precision Delta, XTreme, and NJLoader on my list of places to try out after I exhaust my case of Berry's. And I do have a chrono and test all new loads.

I've been seeing a lot of people lately talking about using plated bullets to save money. I've been looking around and have found sources of jacketed bullets for marginally more (sometimes less) than plated. Why would anyone use plated bullets when you can get jacketed for about the same price? The only reason I can think of is that they're fully plated, so no lead exposure, but I'd think that the velocity limit and ability to pierce the plating would overcome that. I guess for all you guys shooting .45ACP the velocity limit isn't an issue, but for 9 and .40 it can be. Am I missing something?

Is it even legal for them to disallow that? Either way, that is the appropriate response.

I understand where you're coming from, but that's not what I meant. I don't care whether this was actually given to a school or not as the bulk of what is said are values that all Americans should hold. At least the first half, the second half doesn't really apply outside of school.

Wow, that's awesome. Real or fake doesn't matter, it's all about the content. I only wish more of this country felt that way about this country. It's always nice when I hear about a naturalized citizen actually take their oath to heart. Unfortunately they seem to be somewhat rare, and yet still more common than those who are born here feeling that way. I already feel the soap box starting to rise under my feet, so I'm going to stop there.

Setting off a cartridge (of any kind) will shoot the bullet out because pressure is built up prior to debulleting. How much pressure depends entirely on how much force is required to break the crimp/neck-tension. It just won't be anywhere near the velocity or accuracy when using a gun, but at very short range that doesn't really matter much. The military actually does tests similar to this for Insensitive Munitions. Two of them in particular are fast- and slow-cookoff where they heat up a box of ammo quickly or slowly to see what happens. The idea behind it is if the cargo is in a fire or sitting in the desert sun they want to know how dangerous it will be to those around it. The rounds will pretty much always go off, it's just a matter of how much velocity and momentum they carry that determines how dangerous it is.

Obviously the Secret Service is not all that concerned with legally armed citizens. Just goes to show you that the Brady Campaign is just a bunch of fear mongering blowhards. As if we didn't already know that.

As everyone else said, Powder Valley DOES combine hazmat up to a certain quantity. Midway however does NOT combine as they ship from different warehouses (or maybe even drop ship) I believe. So if you order powder AND primers from them, they will charge you hazmat and shipping twice. Powder Valley's prices are better anyway. I try to wait until I need a few thousand primers and a few pounds of powder before I order, or I combine with a friend.

Challenge accepted! It was a good read and very succinct. Glad to see that at least one person was able to admit they were wrong and even then backed it up with links to the stories that explain it.

Good job all around, especially the new shooters. I don't know about the rest of you, but I just want to put these match results on my fridge. I'm officially hooked on this. The first saturday of every month can't come soon enough now. If the next one is a multi-stage classifier (which I also thought Ron said), I will definitely be there. I only hope that my real holster will be here in time since it already missed the class and the first match, and it would be a shame if I got classified with a POS holster.

I definitely agree. It's just hard to watch how bad you are the first time.

I'm with you on that one. I'm cringing watching the vids of me from yesterday. Everyone has to start somewhere though I guess.

Did you forget already Nick? Check your phone.

28, started shooting at about 22 or 23.

First match for me, was a ton of fun. A lot of people there, including a lot of new folks. We all got indoctrinated into the sport with a nice shiny Texas Start for our first stage. Luckily we got to shoot the classifier last so we could get a few stages under our belt first. Rifle stage was also very fun. Maybe next time I'll remember to flip up my sights before the buzzer. All in all, I'm very happy I got into it. Thanks again to all the experienced folks for helping us through our first real match. Can't wait for next month.

A thumbhole stock does not protrude conspicuously beneath the action like a handgun. It is a hole in the stock. Thumbhole stocks are typically the workaround for this situation, just like with rifles.

Looks like we have a winner. I always forget AC vs statute. Really it's pretty dumb to have both. If the AC holds no weight as a law, it shouldn't exist. It only seems to exist for the sole purpose of contradiction and confusion. Then again, IANAL and don't understand the difference.

It reminds of that statement in the Aitken opinion about how laws are written using language the anyone of "ordinary" intelligence can understand them so they know how to stay within the law. I consider all of us to be at least of ordinary intelligence, and yet we can't seem to make heads or tails of just about any law.

It still seems contradictory to me. I understand vlad's point that it is an OR statement, however, section 3 nullifies all of section iii. There is no way to have anything legal via section iii because section 3 makes it illegal, so why bother having iii. Like JamesC said, it seems like the legislators were lazy and didn't rescind section iii when implementing 3.

The AR15 LULA is great, especially for stubborn steel mags.

I have one, and it's pretty good. It's just a little awkward to use sometimes I find because you have to push down on it to load each round, so the mag has to be on a solid surface, you can't just load the mag in the air. If you only have a few different guns (or only one), I prefer the HKS loaders as they're a little easier to use. If you have many different handguns though, the uplula is the way to go.

I actually just wound up placing an order for 3 from this guy (http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/350601935/m/145103562/p/1) (thanks Pizza Bob for the suggestion). They seem decent for the price and given how much I'll use them, so thought I'd give them a try. Probably spent only half what I would have on the rest. The guy responded quickly and said he should have them shipped early next week. Unfortunately won't be in time for Saturday, but pretty quick nonetheless. I'll report back once I have them in case anyone else is interested.

We do embrace the free market. That's exactly why those of us who want to buy Serpas, still buy Serpas regardless of what people say about them. If they are as inherently unsafe as everyone claims, they will go the way of the Ford Pinto...that's how the free market works. Since, as you say, it's just a piece of plastic, why do any of you care what others buy? We're not spending your money. We're not telling you to use it. So what's the big deal? I find it amazing that no one here who owns a Serpa, has told anyone else to go out and buy a Serpa, yet everyone who hates Serpas has told the rest not to buy a Serpa. Have there been accidents with Serpas involved? Yes. Have there been accidents with other holsters? Of course. Does that mean no one should buy any holster? No.

I have mags (thanks to Mastodon), it's the pouches I need. And 15? No wonder they were out the first time I tried to get some.

I planned on bringing it anyway, assuming the same thing. I'll be able to get a look at what other people use to help me pick something out for the next time too. Sounds like the side stages are far less formal.