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Can't wait to get one myself. Glad to hear you like it. In fact, think I'm going to register for the marketplace now...

I have a feeling that the steep increase in sales at the moment are a product of more than just fear a dem will shift policy. Gun sales hit an all time high a few times last year if I recall correctly, and I'm sure at least part of that has to do with the continuing financial crisis. Not only that people are buying because they're scared, but also because the initial crisis forced many to sell things to pay mortgages, including guns. I remember a guy at Cabelas telling me their gun vault stock increased dramatically in 2009. Now that consumer confidence has increased people are either buying back or just buying those guns, which increased the number of NICs checks (one measure of gun sales). Then of course there's the increase in popularity. There are plenty of gun shows on popular networks now. I think this accounts for some of the first time gun buyer purchases, as do popular video games that incorperate real firearm models. Simply fearing dems will regulate firearms probably wouldn't convince someone who had no interest in them in the first place to go out and buy one. But a show that fawns over the craftsmanship and power of a coachgun, or a videogame that basically teaches the player differences between handgun calibers, might. In other words, if Obama loses should you sell your ruger stock? In the short term, probably. But long term I would bet that would be a mistake.

It seems Golden Sabers are on sale everywhere online. I'd like to stock up, but have never mail ordered HPs and it makes me nervous. Also don't like getting all the gun related direct mail when you order online--my neighbors get my mail all the time. Plus I like to buy local when I can. So...Is anyone in NJ selling them cheap? Looking for 9mm.

Glad to hear they tollerate neglect well. Got it apart and back together. Not as scary as the internet made it sound, although the saftey thing was a little annoying. Couldn't get the slide to rack for a while. Honestly not totally sure what I did to fix it, but it's together now!

Thanks. I'm definitely stripping it. This is a first for me with this firearm, so I'll post if I have any trouble. But that was my plan. Just trying to get a sense of how concerned people would be about a 10 year old unused, uncleaned mark II. Ie "obviously take it to the smith" or "just hose it down and hit the range"

I'm getting re-aquainted with a gun I used to shoot years ago. It belonged to my father, but I think I had more rounds though it as a kid than he did. He hasn't touched it in about 10 years so he transfered it to me now that I'm getting more interested in shooting. The bad news is I don't think it was ever cleaned. Fortunately, I don't think we really shot it that much either. So the quesiton is, do I take it to a smith to make sure it's safe? Do I just strip it, clean it, and (as long as everything appears to be in working order) take it to the range. Or, since stripping it is a huge pain, do I just douse it with Hoppes, clean what I can with some q-tips and cleaning squares on a skewer and hope for the best? I know for a fact it was in working order when he put it on the shelf, and he also recalls taking it plinking about 3 years ago, but could be mistaken. Thanks! BTW its a stainless target model. Pics TK if anyone is interested.

Jersey City requires that you give a reason for needing an FID. I was soo tempted to put zombies. Didn't, of course, because I actually wanted to get the thing.

I think Sig is calling that the "tactical operations" model now. Can't use the name Blackwater from what I understand.

We need to start a CZ club. Also, maybe a group buy on trigger jobs from CZ Customs. I definitely need one. Also curious what others have done for grips. Not loving the plastic. But other than that, you're going to love it. Would have loved an 85 in stainless.

Special conditions: *** Production Division Note *** — Handguns with external hammers must be fully decocked at the start signal. That means the hammer must be down on a live round? If so that seems reckless. CZ intends their 75bs to be decocked to the half-cocked notch according to the tech I talked to at CZ when I was debating a 9mm. So the rules of the competition require shooters to do things that go against the intended use of the firearm and could result in unintended discharges and broken hands. But like I said, I've never been to a match. I assume people do this stuff all the time with no ill effects. To the original point, however, I would only suggest decocking to the half way point and only releasing the hammer when your finger is off the trigger.

I think it depends what you mean by decocked. It seems that CZ thinks decocked means half cocked. As the firingline quote says, the decocker on the BD only drops the hammer to half cocked. It isn't terribly difficult to manually decock the hammer to the half position (pull the hammer back with your thumb, pull the trigger, release the trigger, gently release the hammer). The firing pin block adds lots of safety here. But I've heard that USPSA requires the hammer to be fully decocked. I have no idea if this is true, I've never been to a USPSA match. If that's the case decocking becomes a little more stressful since you have to keep the trigger pulled while you lower the hammer past half-cocked. This seems like a recipe for broken thumbs.

I called after fingerprinting was done and they gave me a ball park (2 weeks after fingerprinting). I called one week later (you know, just in case) and they said a day or two. Called in two 2 days and it was done. They said they would NOT call or send a letter. It's up to you to check if the paperwork is finished.

Nice. How do you like the adjustable sights? I almost got the combat but figured I'd probably just pick my own sights in the future so I went bone stock instead. Tough decision, however.

Nice of you to offer. I'm also thinking of joining Citizen's. It's only another 10 mins away. Once I get into the groove of hitting the range more often I may send you a PM.

Long time in the making, but finally landed on a cz-85b (thanks to Mastodon for hooking me up). Solid piece of machinery. Kind of wish the stainless was full ambi, but then again, I don't need to spend the extra $$. Got it out on the range today and put a bunch of different ammo through it--Winchester white box, Magtech, some brown box milsurp ball (which felt extra snappy for some reason). Not a hiccup. I was shooting at about 17 yards. First 20 or so rounds were low, then to the right. I finally calmed down a bit (I was a little excited) and everything went where it was supposed to. After about 150 rounds I decided I spent enough cash for the day and packed it up. These seem to be especially popular at the moment and, in my estimation, deservedly so. To quote Mr. Bueller, it is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. (for those of you who know about posting pictures of firearms online, did I miss anything? Don't want stray numbers or identifying marks flowing around in cyber space)

Good to know. I just drove 23 mins to Bullet Hole. It's fine, but I'm not sure I want to spend 23 mins getting there just so I can shoot in the middle of the day.

But why is it different for CZ than for Glock? At best I think the Glock's are $50 cheaper online. Had I ordered from a very local shop the CZ would have been around $250 more. Another, less local shop $150 more. Seems steep for a sub-$1000 gun (or sub $500 gun online). Meltzer's (I don't mind using their name because I'm not complaining about their prices) told me the last time they had a 75b in the display it sat for almost a year. On the other hand, they can turn over M&Ps or even more expensive H&Ks with relative ease. I suppose its an economy of scale problem. In any event, congrats! Like I said, can't wait to join you. These things just point so well, don't they?

I ordered from Mastodon. They're a bit far from me, but the only FFL less than 1.5 hours away that would beat or match MSRP. As a bonus I thought I was getting 15 round mags. Turns out there was a clerical error. Funny thing is, the really local guys either charged a ton (one wanted over $700 for a gun that costs $464 on CTD), or claimed they can't get them because of mag restrictions--when clearly CZ offers 10 rounders. One shop did admit that they do so much business with glocks and sigs that it really doesn't make sense for them to stock CZs. I think the price difference reflected their disinterest in special ordering. I guess there just aren't enough light/laser/bayonet/tactical accessories for the good ole steel.

Can't wait to join you guys. Ordered a 85b (lefty) a week ago. Hoping it comes together soon. I must have shot/handled 14+ 9mm while waiting for my FID. Keep coming back to the CZ.

Really? Because my dad is also sending me a .22 handgun (long story). We were convinced the PA FFL had to mail it to an FFL in NJ. That would save us some $ if he can just mail it himself! (Such a helpful guy--really wish it wouldn't take me 2+ hours to get to your shop)

I think I have the answer to this one (been covered a lot on here--and I've been searching the forum a lot after getting my FID) Per the State Police: http://www.nj.gov/njsp/about/fire_hollow.html They can only be purchased and possessed between point of purchase and home, or when going to a range/hunting location/etc. "As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 2C:39-6f and g when transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances." N.J.S.A 2C:39-6g."

And just to be clear for us noobs, that would have been totally legal had he been between his home and the range or his home and the gun shop, yes?

Good question. 20 mins with no traffic (middle of the day). 30 mins in normal traffic. Impossible at rush hour. I'll check out Tenafly. I was confused by the website and all the range hours. I thought it was .22 only for steel, but I guess it's .22 only for the shooting gallery. Does 25 yards for the steel mean fixed at 25 yards? Also, happy to hear shotgun is allowed--that's next on my list. Only problem is it isn't cheap, and it's about 40 mins from me. But I appreciate the info.

Ugh, not worth it. Shipping the thing wouldn't be cheap, and that would be at least $50 in transfer fees all told. Doubt the gun is worth that much. I was hoping I could have my family transfer it to a PA local FFL, then just buy it from him (since I can buy long guns in PA, right?)

My grandfather passed away many years ago and a bunch of old long guns were taken to my parent's house in PA. They don't use them, and most are probably not in working order. However, one shot gun in particular might be worth taking to the smith. How would I go about getting the shotgun to my house in NJ legally? My understanding is that I can purchase a long gun in PA, but not F2F transfer. So I guess "sell" it to an FFL in PA and then "buy" it back from them? Thanks!