Plinker

Yea that's true. And I'm not sure what the volume discounts, if any, are. That too would depend on the distributer and the dealers agreement. Does NJ take any percentage of gun sales outside of the regular sales tax? I wouldn't think so, but with Jersey and guns.......

My numbers were not meant for any particular weapon....let alone the Glock. They were just example numbers. I don't know what the typical markup is in the firearm industry. However, what I have seen with different quotes from various dealers, there certainly is more then $20 to $30 profit being made off of some new gun sales. When I checked here for a quote on my MKiii the prices varied by up to $75...and over $100 from where I actually purchased. Now 20 or 30% would seem to be more likely the norm profit margin and in keeping with general business. If you try running a business on less then that you are going to have a hard time staying in business. One saving grace is that accessories typically net a considerable higher profit margin. You know those cables you buy at stores like Best Buy that go for $30? They typically cost $2 to $5....one reason they can afford the bigger discounts on the higher dollar items.

Something that needs to be considered is the price that the store pays for new products. If a gun is sold by them for say $600, and their cost is $400 or $450, then they would probably only offer $200 +/- for a used gun. In the musical instrument world dealers usually pay half of the actual cost of a new item for the used one, assuming it's in very good/new condition Understand that they have no mfr. warranty on the item, so to cover any possible warranty costs, shelf time, etc.they do tend to low-ball. Typical resale (in the MI world) for used gear is twice what the used purchase price was. What gets me is when a store is selling something used close to the new item sell price...unless it's consignment in which case the the actual owner of the gun has set their price too high or the store is taking too much of a commission.

Lol, those were funny!

The Hill People! You know, the Hills DO have eyes.... 8-)

Lol, must be European... :-)

Congrats on your sons enlistment! Our oldest daughter went to boot camp (U.S. Army) on Nov. 1st. And is coming home on Dec. 17 for Xmas holiday....goes back to boot on Jan 2nd. She's at Ft. Jackson SC. She's been writing us about her experiences. She finally got to shoot a rifle and loves it! :-). And to think she thought mom and dad were a little weird for wanting to get back into shooting. WRT Great Lakes ... When I was in the Navy I went there for ET "A" School. Was there from October thru March. The worst watch you could have was midnight shore patrol on the shore of the lake. We had to wear these poly uniforms that the wind just blew straight thru. Did get to wear foul weather jackets though. Really do miss mine. I had one when I got out and eventually wore it out.

Yea, failing electronics would be a worse problem. Didn't know you accessed the battery compartment from outside. I think I would prefer an 'old fashioned' dial lock anyways.

Thanks! My wife liked it too but it was a bit heavy for her, so we found a used 22/45 Hunter with the shorter barrel. She really likes that one.

I've seen a couple different safes in similar smaller configurations in the +/- $400 range. All seem pretty nice. I'm curious about the electronic locks though. What happens if the battery should fail on it? How do you open the safe then?

Those were great! Still lmao!

What about Weatherby (sp?)? Are they decent? We went to Dicks in Easton on Tuesday and were looking at shotguns. It seemed like a well made gun (forgot the model..). Never see them mentioned in threads like these.

That made my wife smile.

Good information folks. I did think about changing out the glass but what I might do is put sheet metal behind it. It has a nice deer engraving on the front and really don't want to loose that. The hinges onthe other hand...screws right out in the open for the dismantling....definately from a different time....and something I will have to change. #%^#%^^!!! First Energy STILL hasn't fixed the power!

Yep. JCP&L ... Or I should say First Energy .. at their finest. I know they have a huge job ahead of them....but peope on either end of our road have power.

That is an excellent idea! Now, if we ever get power back I can start cleaning it up....

In the past the longest we've been out has been 6 to 8 hours....they are WAY past that now. The morons came thru and took care of two trees but left the third blocking half the road. I had to put two of my own orange cones out in front of my house to warn about the fallen tree branches. Fortunately the neighbor caught them in time so they didn't run off with my cones.

We ended up with around 14" of snow. Trees down. Power out (got the generator running). Hit pretty hard. Jcp&l says Thursday everyone should be up....but I think thats the party line speech.... At least it isn't in the 20's!

Ok....we decided, or I should say my wife decided, on her firearm. We stopped in at Hackettstown Gun and Ammo and there was a used Ruger MKiii 22/45 Hunter with a 5.5" barrel... She picked it up and said that it was the one. Price was great...only $300. Thanks everyone for the great suggestions! So many nice guns out there. Now it's time to find a local range...

Not sure how deep you're cutting or if the layer you are cutting can come out, but I've found utility knives with brand new blades work exceptionally well at cutting case insert foam. You can get some at Home Depot and various craft stores that extend from a plastic handle several inches. they need to be knew - nice and sharp. What might work is if you could make a template out off plywood or 1/4" hardboard, place it on your foam where you want the cut to be and then put weight on top of it to flatten the foam...the follow the pattern with your cutter. Probably more work then what you want to do but for serious OCD....

We went over to PA to the Army Navy store in Allentown to check out some hand guns. Saw a used Ruger 22/45 hunter that was significantly lighter then mine. I think the what makes mine so much heavier is it's all steel where the 22/45 (and others) have composites in them. She got a better feel for the bolt lock too - I'll definately look into the extension for it. I think we might just get another Ruger MKiii now which would be great because some of the parts/mags could be used for either. Plus the odds are good they will like the same brands of ammo. Saw a couple of S&W cannons - that's the best way to describe them. HUGE! Also checked out some 9mm guns. The Glock 17 seemed perfect for her (I didn't mind it either) but I don't think that it would be legal in NJ with 19 round mags in it, would it? I haven't gotten a chance to fire my gun yet and I'm already thinking of the next one, lol!

Thanks!

That's a nice looking gun!

LOL - yea, that's a good use for the lock!

Thanks for the link! I also found CMP in the Acronym faq at the top of the forum....