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I agree. Thanks for the other points.

That 6" barrel is the reason I bought the 40, to make maximum use of whatever round I'm shooting. I'll have to look at the Remington .357 125 gr HP specs and see how they compare to the Underwood I bought. Curiously, on the Double Tap site, the section for 'Range' ammo is empty. I didn't go through the whole product catalog, but defensive 10mm rounds were all over $1 each. The Underwood 'range' ammo is around .50.

Very nice! I have a Dan Wesson Valor 1911 and it was worth every dollar. I concur on your assessment. I just bought a Glock 40 as my first 10mm, and I like the round. Not enough experience yet to know if it's the pistol, the round, or both. I just shot 'average' factory rounds with RN and JHP and it was all good. The Underwood rounds arrived today. 1,250, 1,300, and 1,600 FPS rounds so I'll see what the difference is when I shoot them. I'm considering buying a Glock 20 slide and trying that on the 40 frame to see how much difference the long slide and barrel make. Enjoy that DW. It's a looker!

Then good luck there Handy. A double barreled statement. We'll have no such issue. It's dinner for four and we're all Trumpers. And we all shoot.

Rest easy. Thanksgiving dinner is only two weeks away today.

At TargetSportsUSA. These are 50 round boxes or 1,000 round cases only in handgun calibers, standard and +P versions. Note: That's the LE packaging only. Add to the cart to see the discount. The discount will show in the cart towards the bottom as a credit. Although the test box I put in showed at the discount price. Just look carefully.

Since I'm the philosophy graduate I'll give you the philosopher's answer: Why not?

Especially useful when you're up Schiff's Creek without any evidence.

Well, I picked up a Glock 40 on Friday and shot it Sunday. I bought the 40 because of the 6" barrel, MOS ready, price point, and 15 round capacity. (When at my undisclosed PA location.) I was shooting 'average' factory rounds, both RN and JHP, not 'full house' Underwood or equivalent. From what I read 10mm was supposed to be what? Hard to control? Follow up shot issues? FBI agents had a problem? Take your pick. I found the Glock not only comfortable to shoot but also very accurate. (I did better than with other Glocks.) Of course the 6" barrel and sight radius helped I'm sure, but the first 15 rounds were in the X ring at 21'. I'm no he-man, and for me that's pretty accurate. It certainly wasn't a cannon. So now I'm going to order some Underwood and see how that flies. By the specs might be a 20% or so uptick. 10mm was the first new caliber for me in eight years and just a lark. But so far I'm like'n it. I remember Ted Nugent rambling about how much he liked to shoot 10mm. Maybe I see his point. If anyone else is into 10mm, I'm listening.

I wonder why there's no pictures of him with a Republican? /SarcOff/

Every Democrat says they don't know the name of the Whisteblower Hoaxblower. And that certainly includes these four.

"Be kind to the people you meet on the way up, 'cause you're gonna meet the same people on the way down." Ralph Kramden

For comparison: 10/14 Application submitted online. 10/14 All reference questionnaires complete. 10/19 Criminal history check complete. 10/26 Application approved. 11/15 Still waiting for permits to show up. 32 days and waiting. Application through Sussex barracks. I know the holdup isn't at the barracks. Update: The permit gods heard my plea. They are ready for pickup. 1 hour after my post.

Bingo. Political Islam.

They're on a mission from Allah.

Good one Silverado! Why didn't I think of that???

My shipping cost won't match up to yours. Mine was much bigger and went to an undisclosed location in PA. Doesn't matter. Pick out what you want, call them, and they'll give you the shipping estimate for your location. It will probably ship via R&L carriers. A tractor trailer needs to be able to pull up to your driveway. There will be a lift gate and pallet jack on the truck and the driver will roll it into your garage assuming it's a reasonable trip. (You can confirm all this when you speak to them.) If not, have a buddy on hand and transport the pieces into your garage separately. I had a 5' Z3 and the heaviest piece was the door at 175#s. The Z1 will be a piece of cake. All of it. They will tell you the specific weights if you ask. Ask for Jack. He took over the company after the original owner retired. I love the tumbler lock. I also ordered the Z Plus interior treatment, key lock on the dial, and the Golden Rod dehumidifier and I don't regret a single dollar I spent. I ordered the Tan which is actually a dark brown to me and it looks really nice. It also matches up with their interior color. (Make sure the pallet hasn't changed in the last 18 months.) After I assembled it, on the front face pieces that butt together, I could insert a single sheet of paper in the gap between the pieces, but not a postcard. That's how well these things are cut and custom assembled. If you can bear the cost, I doubt you'll be disappointed.

OP: If you're new to safes look this site over. You will be buying something you call a 'safe'; it will actually be a Residential Security Container. (And that may be perfectly fine for your purposes.) One option is Zanotti Armor. Their safes come on a pallet, and you can carry one piece at a time to your location and assemble it. I have done this, and IMO they're worth the money. They are not T--15 or T-30 rated, but they have more steel in the door and body than most of what you will find in stores.

I want to point out something. If the Red Flag law was what's in play, then guns are confiscated and a court date is set where the person gets a chance to explain why he's not a threat. No one is arrested as part of this process. This guy was arrested because he made terroristic threats while under police 'surveillance', and as a side effect his guns were confiscated. He's in jail and will have a day in court not of his choosing. So, this is not a Red Flag law case. But of course NJ.com will tout Red Flag every chance it gets.

Permits... yes. Multiple Handgun Exemption... yes. I'm assuming 'the spouse who did not have the paperwork' means the spouse who did not purchase any of the handguns in question.

Whoa! Now you've definitely crossed the line!

Yes, it was a little confusing the first time. I should have mentioned it. The line items appear at the normal price, and the 'discount' shows up at a line near the bottom of the order page as a -$ adjustment, and then when you actually check out it's obvious.

In Sussex County at least we passed the 'cooperate with ICE' resolution. For what that's worth.

If I'd put $25,000 in Microsoft in 1989 instead of somewhere else it would be a lot clearer.