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The reaction is much the same, and what I remember most is many said ”a gun ban would NEVER happened” and we see how that worked out. Keep in mind after the ban was enacted the DEMS got booted out of office and became the minority in both the Assembly and the Senate. Then the Republicans came in (and ran on) stating they would overturn the AWB. The Assembly voted to override Florio, they did their job. Then that POS Difrancesco the Senate president at the time (and later Acting Governor after Whitman) refused to put the bill to a vote letting the override vote die on the Senate floor. Floiro must had some dirt on Donny Boy or Donny got a deal from Diamond Jim. The NRA was not to seen in NJ since. Those rallies back then were huge so in my view this Rally on 8 February needs to be even bigger. You asked if the bill has a chance. Well look at it this way, The AWB Florio pushed though was something he came up with and there was no recent tragedy like in CT to point to which has sparked the recent Anti 2A flurry, nor were there any Assault Weapons crimes. So my point is now they have traction justified or not and we really need to stop this before it gains even more momentum.

right on time, we need a little humor right about now....

don't forget the Menendez intern arrest, if that story hadn't got buried there was a good chance he would have got the boot. So what do you think Menendez and his intern chatted about? Anyway I received that one last week, one from Chris Smith and my two assemblymen today. Looks like they are all just standard form letters, nothing special so that is why 8 February needs to be a huge turnout in my view

You are absolutely correct. "Common sense gun laws"" and "meaningful gun laws" has been Obama’s mantra for God knows how long and given the recent tragedy in CT he has ramped-it-up. Now all the locals are jumping on the bandwagon singing those phrases. Sure, at face value it sounds great but there is nothing “meaningful” they are purposing that lends itself to "common sense". As far as Florio in the video he could give a shit, he only wants some payback for getting shit-canned by pissed-off Taxpayers and gun owners for his re-election bid. Him and his cronies are a disgrace to NJ, Florio should be banned from ANY public functions solely based on his past associations with Bryant. I'm sorry folks he and Wayne Bryant were too close for Florio not to know Wayne was dirty. It is no wonder why they want to remove guns from the people

you can't make this shit up...

I see Mr Tax Man/Jim Florio was in attendance, Florio should have invited his convicted criminal buddies Bryant, Cohn, and Vas.

Found this one on the gunbroker forum...

I knew gas stations have been doing it for years however I avoid those stations unless I’m on the road and I don’t have a choice. Thanks for the heads up. In my view it’s just another back-door tax allowed by our lawmakers and in all honestly I am not surprised. As far as the post(s) above them seem to be onboard with this that cost it is built-in and everyone knows it. With all due respect to you think you your day-to-day items are now going to be at a reduced cost? Think again, that’s not happening unless you had cost slashed across the board heading into this. Cash is king and always has been. The beauty of the CC is a dispute with a vendor you had some protection especially if it was long distance purchase. Now you have decide if that extra cost is worth it to you. For a trip to the gas station probably not but for a major appliance buy maybe so. Either way if you guys starting paying in cash make sure you get your receipts even if they have the vendor hand-write them.

that's easy, one of the bill's sponsors N.J. Assemblyman Joseph Vas was indicted on federal corruption charges Edit: let us not forget about other NJ famous DEMS lawmakers lawbreakers Former N.J. Assemblyman Neil Cohen pleads guilty in child-porn case Former state Sen. Wayne Bryant is released from prison (Key in NJ first AWB)

I seen last week in the S12 forum, yes very well done. Florio started “Assault Weapon” drumbeat back in the beginning of his administration. He needed some smoke & mirrors and a little misdirection for his agenda to raise taxes so he created the “Assault Weapon Boogie Man”. The truth of the matter is Leftists want to ban ALL firearms and if anyone tells you anything different they are full of shit. They know a proposed all-out band is unlikely but if they do it incrementally they could get there from here....

this one

I didn't have any problem with the 633-7254 number, the 292-2386 took a few attempts but did go. Also called Harry Reid's office but voicemail is full, will try again tomorrow. For today I contacted him here and kindly ask his to stymie all restrictions and bans.

it's not you it's them, ALL the state sites are down.

Can’t really add much to what has been said already. I’m getting a little disgusted with these politicians and liberal media exploiting these shootings for political gain. In the grand scheme of things none of the politicians have ever accomplished anything to brag about to begin with.... And with the liberal media like CNN/MSNBC/ABC portraying us a bad guys 24/7 they seem to be getting some traction and the politicians are getting their 15 minutes in the sun. Keep the Faith and keep up the fight!

yep, they could do a lot more damage in four more years and not just with 2A... hang on to your wallets boys and girls

finally some good news....

I see by your location that could home or is close to home for you. Do you think there is any chance that Seaside will salvage any of part of the shore season?

I drove into Trenton about 10:30 and didn't see anyone so I just keep going, too earlty I guess. check out guy in this image in the center from Trentonian

I noticed that as well. My two thoughts were what are the opponents thinking and if it is a medical condition and what happens when he drives a car? If it is not a medical issue then Bill O'Reilly should use his resident Body language expert Tonya Reiman because I’d like to hear her take on it. Either way the NRA should get someone fresh in there. That press conference Wayne had a few weeks back didn’t do us any good there either. Wayne is a smart guy but we need someone more polished in there, perhaps a person of color and/or a woman. Keep in mind Wayne was in friendly territory last night and I’m sure just like on MSNBC 100% of the content was scripted. so if that wasn’t a medical issue he was shaky and will not perform well in a hostile environment. If they want another white guy we need someone like Ben Shapiro who can think on their feet and who is rock solid under fire. Regardless of what we think of Piers Morgan he is and excellent debater but Shapiro ripped him a new A-hole and Piers didn’t even know it. This is the 9th inning of the World Series and we need to change the pitcher otherwise the other team is going to blast it out of the park. With the exception of NJ Wayne and the NRA have had a pretty easy time of it the last few years, now that the pressure is on I don’t think Wayne is packing the gear for what is coming. Just to qualify my posts this does not reduce what happened in CT, it was horrible and the first thing I thought of was what happened in Lancaster a few years ago. I wish we had a crystal ball to find these folks out before it happens but that is just about as realistic as Team Obama and his Common Sense Gun control efforts along with his economic solutions. The Feds should stick to delivering the mail and securing our borders and we see how that’s been working out...

the link is down, do you think that could have anything to do with them screwing up the law restricting LE to 7 rds as well?

bump...

Outstanding, here it is via youtube. He should be one of our elected officials

Menendez and his Sex Offender intern, I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall in their office to hear those conversations, LOL. Also this one too was a laughter.

yep, like the S&W 327 which I own and is my HD gun. I guess NY S&W 327 owners are suppose to just leave on cylinder empty, I don't think so...

I received the following from my NY buddy (copied & pasted below). I know we have our own fights coming up but if you know someone in NY pass it on... Breaking News !!! NY Sheriffs Fighting back !!!! Everyone print this out and bring it to your local sheriff !!!!! A few NY Sheriffs have vowed to not comply !!!!!!!! Local sheriffs question merits of new N.Y. law By JOE MAHONEY 01/16/2013 12:18 PM Schoharie County Sheriff Tony Desmond and Otsego County Sheriff Richard Devlin Jr. both questioned the merits of a new package of gun control measures signed into law Tuesday by Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo argued the legislation will enhance public safety in New York. But Desmond said that requiring citizens to register guns that the new legislation now defines as assault weapons will not be a priority of his department. “Nobody from the Schoharie sheriff’s department is going to be taking any weapons away from anyone unless they have committed a crime,” Desmond said. “An average law-abiding citizen is not going to have to worry about the sheriff’s department coming to take their weapon or arresting them for having a weapon.” The legislation broadens the definition of assault weapons to include guns that had previously been described as such. For instance, a shotgun with a pistol grip is labeled by the new law as an assault weapon because of the single feature of having a pistol grip. Although Cuomo had indicated last month that he was considering the option of having the government confiscate assault weapons, the legislation that overwhelming passed the state Senate and Assembly allowed those weapons to be kept by owners if they already have them. Desmond said forcing citizens to register such guns is impractical and doe not enhance public safety. “We don’t have the time to run around and tell everybody to bring their long weapons in to register them,” he said. “We’re just barely keeping up with the pistol permits we have now.” Devlin said that while he agreed with some features of the legislation — such as a new requirement that pistol permit and rifle registration information be kept confidential — the thrust of it will have an onerous impact on law-abiding citizens who acquired their guns through proper channels. “I don’t see how this legislation is going to prevent a crazy person from doing something that’s crazy,” Devlin said. He said numerous gun owners have contacted him to register their displeasure with the legislation. “People are not happy,” he said. State Sen. James Seward, R-Milford, a long-time gun rights advocate, was one of the 18 state senators who voted against the gun package, which was acted on as a single bill. Seward said he agreed with one component that increases the punishment for anyone convicted of killing a first responder as well as the provision limiting public access to gun records kept by local governments. The latter provision was inserted in the legislation following an uproar in Westchester County after a newspaper owned by the Gannett Co. acquired a database of gun permit owners and published their names and home addresses. Seward said he also favored a provision that requires mental health providers to report to law enforcement when they encounter patients who could endanger others with weapons.. “My problem with the legislation is it zeroes in too much on the weapons — and puts restrictions on law abiding legitimate gun owners,” the senator said. He noted the overwhelming majority of his constituents were opposed to the new restrictions. Daily Star : Local sheriffs question merits of new N.Y. law http://m.thedailysta...ll=true#display OTHER IMPORTANT LINKS ====================== https://petitions.wh...tional/W2KLT6t8 Who is going to Albany? I will be there Saturday rain or sunshine. We need a big banner.