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So, highlights as I see them: -grandfathered guns would need to be registered under the National Firearms Act (complete with background check, etc.). When you die, so do these grandfathered guns. -120 specifically-named banned guns (no further details...) -two characteristics test moved down to just one to qualify as an assault weapon. So basically, the simple existence of just a pistol grip would be enough to qualify. Thumbhole stocks specifically banned since they are a "work around" on a pistol grip.

Exact copy paste from her US Senate website: Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation: Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by: Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include: Background check of owner and any transferee; Type and serial number of the firearm; Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint; Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

As responsible, peaceful gun owners in NJ, we need to get our voices heard. THIS IS WAY TOO FAR. I would be interested in hearing how I might help fight this proposal in an way I can. I am DONE being silent. I have been biting my to tongue, but enough is enough.

I'm so close to leaving this state. Family man, peaceful, law abiding, licensed CPA, good income, children, church going, one of the good, contributing citizens in NJ. This is too much.

This is absolute insanity.

Glad that guy is getting rid of his semi autos. He obviously doesn't have the psychological/emotional stability to own them.

I have to admit, something tells me this will be different. I can just "feel" it. I don't know how to explain it... I think ammo like 223 will come back into stock. But personally, I don't ever expect to again walk into a NJ gun shop, in my lifetime, and see the type of semi auto rifle selection I saw last Friday morning. I fear those days are over, forever - I truly do. I think an assault rifle ban is gonna really happen, and there will be no window, between now and then, when things return back to "normal."

Thanks for the input, guys! Yes, I didn't mean to put Paul on the spot. But when I was recently (this Fall) looking into establishing a relationship with a southern NJ based FFL, the choice was clear, for me. I read through a ton of his old posts - and for sure, I just found him to be absolutely spot on, on a wide variety of NJ firearm related topics. Incredibly, I was over at A&A just before 10am last Friday, which unbeknownst to everyone at that time, was literally the instant the Newtown tragedy was taking place. I was picking up a rifle I had ordered, that A&A had graciously take of for me. I was looking at the amazing selection of semi auto rifles (various AR, some Vepr AKs...) as my NICS was being done (just before the NICS frenzy started), LITERALLY thinking, my God, I hope I can afford to pick up a couple more of these rifles before some major incident happens and it is too late. Little did I know, that incident was occurring at that exact moment...

PK90 - I have been a long time lurker on here, and only recently a contributor. But your posts on here are always spot on, in my opinion! Was hoping to get your opinion and commentary. Based on your experience, what do you expect over the coming weeks, months, years? Are the semi auto rifles ever gonna come back into stock at A&A, or anywhere for that matter? Also, how about ammo like 223? I am currently just trying to come up with some sort of plan on how I might try to make the most out of the days to come - what I should be trying to stock up on, what my expectations should be, how urgent my searches should be. Is this really the end of normalcy for semi auto rifles and ammo? Thanks so much in advance!

http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/16/dems-promise-first-day-of-new-congress-a-new-gun-law/

Any thoughts or experience regarding whether a Krinkov would be legal as a rifle?

So it could even be ugly or sloppy and still be ok?

If you had a rifle, US-made, not on the banned list - 32 inches overall length, and a 16 inch barrel from the factory. Would it be legal to have the shoulder stock custom cut down for an overall length of the rifle to be 26.5 or 27 inches? Let's use a Hi Point carbine as an example. I think the factory overall length is about 31 or 32 inches. Would there be anything illegal about altering the shoulder stock to somehow trim it down in this way?

Cool - I will definitely look into the pistol. I didn't even consider that the pistol might be an option. Might even be cooler than the rifle version. Thanks!

I have made a couple or recent purchases through Arms N Ammo and they have been absolutely awesome over there. I am going to contact them and see if they can order one for me. I definitely want one! Thanks!

Have you seen these little rifles? Was wondering if it would be possible for a NJ FFL to do what they needed to do to make them NJ legal. Thanks!

Thanks so much for the info, guys! Looks like I have already found a buyer for both G19s. Thanks!

Hi guys - I am new here. I have two unused, new-in-box Glock 19s (gen3) that I bought a few years ago and never even took out of their original cases. Never fired. Both have the 15-round mags. One is OD (olive drab green) and the other is black. The black one also came with a laser sight attachment as well, which is also in the original gun case. Anyway, I am hoping to sell these but I haven't the faintest clue about the process I need to go through here in NJ. Of course, I am aware of the firearms ID and the separate handgun purchasing permits etc - since I went through this process here in NJ myself - but is there anything else I need to know about the selling process as an ordinary NJ citizen? Thanks so much!