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I have not really looked at the M&P's that much. I have handled the Gen 4's at a shop, and also had chance to field strip it. I have not had a chance to shoot a Glock or the Springfield yet. My only experience shooting a .40 was the H&K. The Glock from everything I have read seems pretty good. I really want a full size gun, as that is what feels most comfortable in my hands. I also like the price tag on the Glock. Should have my permits in about a week. I guess I will have to rent each one and see. I appreciate all of the good comments here. Thanks again.

Mostly range use. I have heard good things about the gen 4 dampened recoil. I like the fact that they hold 15rds, and are somewhat indestructible. The funny part is they never felt good in my hands until the gen 4's came out. I shot my buddys H&K. Very snappy gun in that caliber. I agree the CZ's are nice though.

From their site: Effective range of 13' up to 90 MPH.

Got it narrowed down to two choices for my first .40, (I already own a .45ACP and a 9mm). Glock 22 Gen 4, or a Springfield XD Tactical 40. I like full size handguns. Looking for pros and cons on both please. I like certain features on each gun. The Glock is slightly in the lead. Am I missing anything? Appreciate any feedback from Glock and Springfield owners. Thanks.

can you imagine if they did...as if getting the permits were not hard enough. I could only imagine the paperwork experience there.

How was the show today? I will have to make the next one after the holidays.

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Glock 22

More then likely that they just don't place special orders and that was their way out. I believe that all of their ordering is done through their corporate buyers. The gun that you are looking for can be found in NJ. You just have to call around.

Well at least he was right about the 21 yrs old part. FYI usually only a Manager has a pink card, and can sell at a Dick's. He was probably the only manger on as well. I heard that they had problems in the past with employees really screwing up paperwork ,so only a Manger can sell a gun there. As far as lack of service, this is what happens when we don't support the small guys...they go away, and this is what you have left to deal with.

Another vote for Kershaw...but you can't go wrong with Benchmade, or SOG.

Here are a few you should consider: S&W 686 4" barrel Beretta 92FS, or the M9 CZ 75B

gotcha, thanks Ray.

Hey Ray, how did you like the OMM 38. I thinking about one that I saw.

NICS is closed on Sundays in NJ.

Thanks for the info.

Sounds good, maybe after the holidays.

Thanks for the reply. Is this show once a month? Hope I can make it sooner or later.

How often is this show, and what is the address?

Stupid thing to do releasing a pet like that.