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frangible on all lanes at all times, or only when when there's steel shooting at close quarters going on? I can't imagine them succeeding if it's the former rather then the latter :-(

This guy, Phil, did an amazing job on my Browning. Price list linky... http://www.gunbluing.com/price_list.htm Hope this helps Wally

^ yeah, the worst was the guy selling siding and windows... he looked like he was casing the place as he arrived. Well - I guess he sort of was! All brick house with new windows; he went home fast. hahahaha

I don't have any nifty slogans, but maybe a feeling to convey that someone could empathize with and come up with something: Ordinarily I feel as though I carry myself well enough to physically protect my family in the face of most situations, and I have at least some sense of security in that opinion. However, I completely ruptured my Achilles in November and had major surgery to find it up in my calf and reattach/reinforce it. I'm still on crutches and and am still not allowed to bear any weight on the leg. Recovery is expected to be 6mos. I find that I have never felt so concerned about my family's safety, and my ability to protect them, then I do now. Carrying within my home is comforting, especially on the three occasions since November where I had salesman coming on to my property after dark. At night it's just my 3 year old and I - wife works nights - so she is solely my responsibility to protect. When we go outside in NJ though, I don't legally have that option. So I guess I am trying to convey that feeling of "leveling the playing field" with a BG and allowing me to protect my family in exercise of my RKBA. On the lighter side of things... I can mentally picture the oldest lady from Golden Girls, holding 1911 and detaining a thug that grabbed her purse, hahaha. Wally

wow - that is an awful lot!! Yep; On the 8th in Trenton! Wally

I shoot on Sundays at Ft Dix all the time; range-14. $60/yr and $4hr. You can bring guests @ $4/hr for each too; max I think is 3 guests per member. It's a little bit of a ride, but a nice place and recently updated on the rifle range. They also have great skeet shooting in addition to the pistol and rifle ranges. I just realized you asked about a non-member place to shoot... well I guess for the price of a day's shooting, it's cheaper then most non-member prices, lol. Let's see $20/hr at a local indoor range for 6 hrs is $120. Same 6hrs with a year's membership at Range-14, $84. and you get to come back for a year :-) Hope this helps, Wally

great to hear about the progress. The last time I passed by was in November, and I wondered about specifics! Years back, my buddy rented the little house on the property. I spent some time 4 wheeling and dirtbiking on the property and behind it :-) By the looks of how much was cleared, I'm guessing this will be a big facility - sweet!! Wally

I thought that I saw it offered before... around 09 as I recall, but maybe it's just sometimes and I thought it was every year?? I think they routinely offer a $500 upgrade to yearly guys too. Either way it doesn't matter, since I offered anyone that needs a sponsor to PM me and I'll do it for them... especially someone reading this that can't afford it right now, but wants to do it after the offer expires ;-)

FWIW, they do this every year. If you can't afford it this time around, check again when you can Even if it isn't during the usual "drive" you can usually get them to do it when you give them the member number and info of your friend/relative that is a life-member. If anyone needs an honorary "Uncle" and life'er to help out, send me a message and I'll give you my info. Good post Wally

should be at the Capitol Building at 10am. 125 W State... I think that's all the email stated.

OK - latest. I made an inquiry to the legislation address, and the reply is that CH is in the works but far down the list for strategic reasons. When I asked what the best course was for "us" to take, so as not to undermine the effort, I was told that we should just comply with the requirements. So there's the skinny.

I emailed that address on 5/3/2012 and included scan of the spousal form. No reply.

After back and forth with my Uncle, it seems like it's not a good idea to talk to the Chief, lol. So, either we can start with Vitarelli or do like above. Whatta ya think Kwadz?

^ that's a more passive approach that I was considering. Did your references refuse to get their signatures notarized?

That's why I said "surprisingly"... AG trying to side-step the law, much?!?

haven't forgotten... got one reply from my Uncle and he's doing some info gathering. Surprisingly, he said that he recalled the addition of a spousal consent form was a suggestion by the AG!

thanks, I've talked to Frank a few times over the past year and the first step is to follow the 2AS site's recommendations first - which I am doing. But I figure before I try a sit-down with the Chief, I'd ask my Chief for advice

great; I went there today and picked up zi pa-pahs! When I got the BS, I asked if Vitarelli or the Chief were available, and she just gave me Vitarelli's number. I shot my uncle an email when I got home (Retired Chief / Retired Director of the Academy) and explained everything to him and asked him for his advice on the matter. I'll follow-up with what he says. I'm working on my Brother-in-law and Sister. Bro says he wants to do it, but he's afraid of delaying his permits - a very real feeling! I'm glad to see someone on 2AS in CH Wally

Hey guys - I'm getting the itch for a revolver, and I am ready to scoot down to CH and get the pile of forms again. Since I'm not in a burning desire for it yet, I guess this will be the time that I try out the recommendations from Operation Establish Compliance and challenge them to remove the add'l forms and notarization requirements. I was thinking that it would be nice if there are other residents that would do this at the same time with me? Maybe if none of us are in a real hurry, we can resist the continued temptation to give in to their SOP, and bring about true change in the Township. Anyone want to meet up and do this? I'm home recovering from an injury/operation, so I am flexible on meeting times. I am going to approach my Sister and Brother-in-Law tomorrow and see if I can get them on board too; we are all CH residents. Thanks, Wally

Thanks!!! Sounds easy, though not reversible of course... but that's the idea I suppose. I'm going to try to find another tube to hold on to, in case things change and I can put it back for him in the future! Wally

I just found out that Kommiefornia exempts .22's from this rule, so now NJ just sucked a little more in my eyes, lol FWIW, I tried to buy a 552 last month from a gun shop in NJ and he wouldn't sell it to me. I offered to crimp it right in the store, and he thought it still made it illegal by the very model number. UGH.

Hi - I'm trying to help my old Man. He's had an old High Standard for ever... got it when his Dad died way back when and stuck it in storage. It was bought here in NJ at Two Guys somewhere around the late 60's. Here's the problem... I fixed it for him recently, and he's been shooting it at the range all fat, dumb, and happy. Today he asked me about a scope for it, and in the process of checking things out, I realized that it takes s, l, and lr - and of course it's a semi-auto --- oh $HIT. It holds 15LR, so I'm guessing that means about 20 shorts. Ugh. I'm thinking I could pull the tube mag and use a small tubing cutter to shorten it so he's at about 11LR's. That should get me to 15 shorts, and keep him out of the Big House. I'm up for suggestions though... I've never had to do this before!! Some ASSault weapon... I'd rather be armed with a bag of rocks instead of 20 shorts, lol. Thanks! Wally