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SW 22A and Ruger Mark III are both in the 2-300 range. They both shoot very nicely, but I am personally not a fan of the mag release on the 22a and the bolt ears (or looks) of the Mark III. A Mark III will probably be joining the family at some point though because they are just so accurate.

I'll be there.

What the FID says on it means absolutely nothing. New Jersey Statute says you can't possess a long gun (outside of 39-6) without a FID. Logically therefore, with a FID you can possess a long gun outside of 39-6 exemptions.

The moment gmail has a govt backdoor, I will have my own private mail server.

In a parliamentary system it isn't all that uncommon for the PM and cabinet to resign. The government hasn't really "collapsed," and all of the elected representatives are still in power. The PM is not selected by the people as a President is, he is selected by whichever party or coalition of parties has the majority in government.

While you don't need a FPID to shoot or bring your guns here, you do need one to buy any handgun ammo in the state, so it's probably something you should consider getting once you get your DL squared away.

I would have interpreted place of business to mean where you work, regardless of if you own it or not. For purposes of "owning" a business to be allowed to carry there, how much of the business must you own? Sole owner is obviously ok, but equal partners? 4 owners? 100 owners? ANY amount of ownership?

Meant if you had completed the paperwork to get said stamp in the first place.

Unless I am misunderstanding something here, I am going to have to disagree with you on that.

Even if it was a fake gun isn't possessing an imitation firearm also a crime? Or is that only at a school. Any way the state can prosecute him (and the chief?).

How does someone come to have such twisted views?

Muzzle loading cannons? They aren't "firearms" per federal law and therefore aren't subject to NFA.

NFA regulated, not banned. (Well, in America anyway) It is perfectly legal to have >.50 cal rifles/cannon/mortar/etc so long as they are registered as DDs and you have the tax stamp and all assorted paperwork. Some calibers >.50cal are not considered DDs because they have an accepted sporting purpose .600 Nitro Express, .950 JDJ, and others. However in NJ these are DDs per state law and you won't be getting one.

You and everyone else here... Now that I'm on my computer here is the actual statute. If you take another look at your P2P, they say "Permit to Purchase And Form of Register."

Not going to copy/paste since its a PITA on my phone, but they are incorrect. 2C:58-2 c, d, e.

Now that PAFOA is back up, I can finally make that post I said I would last night. http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/18/II/G/61/A/uniform-firearms-act/ Anything you could ever want to know about gun law in PA. In PA, a "firearm" is defined as "Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable." So, any handgun, SBR, or SBS are considered "firearms" under PA law. Carrying a firearm concealed (or in a car) without a LCTF or reciprocal permit in PA is a misdemeanor, if you could get a permit. If you can't get a permit it is a felony. There is no OC in a vehicle. The moment you step into a vehicle you require a LCTF or an accepted CCW permit. You cannot carry a loaded rifle or shotgun (this does not include SBS or SBR as they are "firearms") in a car unless you are hunting and follow the laws pertaining to that. PA actually defines "loaded," and it means "A firearm is loaded if the firing chamber, the nondetachable magazine or in the case of a revolver, any of the chambers of the cylinder contain ammunition capable of being fired. In the case of a firearm which utilizes a detachable magazine, the term shall mean a magazine suitable for use in said firearm which magazine contains such ammunition and has been inserted in the firearm or is in the same container or, where the container has multiple compartments, the same compartment thereof as the firearm." Revolvers - all chambers empty. Fixed-magazine fed - no ammo in the weapon Detachable magazine fed - nothing in the chamber, no loaded mags in same compartment as the weapon that uses them. If a state of emergency has been declared you must have an LCTF to carry open or concealed wherever the state of emergency is in effect. Rifles and shotguns are not considered "firearms" for purposes of PA law, and they may be OC anywhere in PA except for Philadelphia, which requires a LCTF. As always, IANAL.

A member of this board had the police called on him when he showed up with an NJ legal 1919...

Either way the sale likely needs to be in PA anyway, either through an FFL or C&R. The friend needs a FPID to buy the rifle in NJ from an Nj FFL.

Will get back to you when I get back from work since I'm just on my phone now. But yes, any non prohibited person can OC anywhere in PA except for Philadelphia.

Interested in 9mm.

Another +1 for the m&p 22. The ruger SR22 and walther P22 are nice, but they are TINY. The M&P is the same size as the fullsize M&Ps. Doesn't shoot as accurately as a target gun like a Mark III, 22A/41, but it's good enough for plinking.

Because Pennsylvania is part of America. Any adult, who is not a prohibited person, in PA (and 45 or so other states) can legally possess almost any non-NFA firearm so long as it is unloaded. Also in PA, any adult, who is not a prohibited person, can open carry a handgun, rifle, or shotgun without a permit, with the exception of a city of the first class (Philadelphia county). This weekend I was up in the middle of nowhere visiting family. I took both my handguns, a few thousand rounds of .22 and a few hundred of 9mm, and a holster. Walked probably 3/4 of a mile down a public road with a loaded, holstered handgun, including right in front of a PA state trooper, to a spot on public land with a decent backstop and had some fun. Nothing illegal about it once you leave the People's Republic of NJ.

My point (hence the title) is that they are still at some of the same stuff that started a war so long ago.

While the 3rd amendment specifically mentions quartering troops, I'm pretty sure the founding fathers wouldn't look too kindly upon the army putting cannons on the roof of a house, nor armed soldiers (or police for that matter) on top of tall buildings in a city, during peacetime, without the owner's permission, "just in case" something happens.

Couldn't have said it better myself.