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Yes , never shoot your classmate I like the way they did everything dry first to make sure everyone had the skill set down before going live. Despite the real life training style of their classes , at no point ever have I felt unsafe training with them . I plan to take all of the classes , then take them again lol

Very nice! Which caliber is it?

Where in Iowa ? I have an old friend in Fort Dodge That is great your son is getting in to it . That must be real exciting for you Will you get to visit him soon?

I have 2 at home . Use to have 3 but one is potty trained now Sorry , could not resist lol Yes , you did need your own shotgun and pistol. For 1st steps you do not . I highly recommend that class with GFH !

Fantastic class , great instructors as usual ! Learned a lot about shotguns. Theory portions covered the pros and cons of choosing a shotgun as your HD firearm, equipment and ammo choices , slings , the law , etc. The live fire portion started with the best way to load when in a SD situation. Very eye opening . We also learned how the patterns change depending on distance and type of ammo. I was surprised to see how spread out trap and buck shot were at 25 yards. One participant was using Federal Tactical Buck and his pellet pattern was nice and tight , big hole rather than pepper sprayed, even at 25 yards. I think I'll be choosing that ammo. Most had either Mossberg 500 series or Remi 870s . Then , on to a lot of shooting and moving . Which everybody should do any chance they get. During this time we also covered transitioning back and forth between shotgun and your pistol . We covered different states of "ready" as in high , low , etc. Next was barricades , under stress ( always my favorite part) . Then on to some theory on how and when to clear rooms . We covered what to do if someone grabs your barrel. We ended with practicing accuracy from different shooting positions with slugs at 25 yards. Very thorough class , extremely safe , very worth it Personally , I learned that despite my preconceptions shotguns are not necessarily " point and shoot" unless you are 3 to 7 yards away. Which makes me think about how I want to use my shotgun in a HD situation. Probably as my secondary , as in guarding the stairwell while waiting for help to arrive. I do not think I would go downstairs wielding it. Also would be good for a locked in your house and protecting the entrance ways during a crisis or prolonged after effect of a natural disaster type situation. It was pretty tough holding my 590A1 up for 4 hours ..but it actually got easier for me as the course progressed. I have only shot shotgun twice in my life before this , and I think I just had to figure out how to move it around and deal with the length and weight. I spent the first hour of live fire thinking " Mossberg for saaale!!!!" , but by the 3rd hour I was use to it , able to load it ( ok , once I put the shell in backwards , once , and I could not figure it out at first because it was during the under stress portion lol ) , and learned how to shoulder a bit more smoothly . I think I'll loose that limb saver pad. It is sticky and gets hung up on your clothing . That could be bad. Besides , the Mesa recoil reducing stock did its job so well I do not feel like I need it. I feel ZERO on my shoulder even shooting slugs. My hand is a little smarting from the pistol grip today..but minimal. I could shoot all day again today ( which I am actually..IDPA ) . A few other forum members were there ..hopefully they chime in too! All in all , great class.

I'll take some pics tonight . Shot it at GFH Urban Shotgun today . Awesome class ! Gun was a bit heavy for me but once I learned how to manage it things went smoothly I felt zero recoil in my shoulder , even with slugs. The Mesa stoick did its job great . I think I'll lose the limb saver pad though. Too sticky on your clothes :/ Besides , the stock works well enough I doubt I need it .

I have been extremely happy with Gun For Hire

Mark , PM inbound

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Will do , I'll message you. I think the sitter can get here at 3:45 ..so 4 at the BH?

If my adjustable stock comes in tomorrow , I'll be there with my new 590A1 Mariner. If my new adjustable stock does not come in , Pete will be there with my new 590A1 Mariner. So , what happened to your eye? I'll be easy to spot too.I'm the short woman that looks like she just had 3 kids in the last 5 years . If Pete goes he is the tall lean one with black hair and a brogue .

I like the look of them too .. the GFH course I am doing is calling for almost 200 hundred rounds. There is usually a good buffer on rounds actually needed for the course , but imagine if a gun is going to get hot , it would be at this class. I'll just wear an oven mitt on my tactical belt . I would put it on with no real hesitation , except I read the heat shield needs some bending and coaxing to fit on an A1 barrel .

Good work Bob !

Thanks

I had a Rumple Mintz eruption ruin a really good date once .

All women ask a lot of questions. I meant he wants the black barrel version. Mine is a Mariner. So it loads from the bottom , eh? I can't help but notice a lack of a heat shield on this..is that something that will make life easier , or just a useless add on? 18.5 inch barrel , 590a1 version..if I am reading correctly there is no shield that fits well , is it worth making something work?

Thanks Trying to push Pete into getting the same one ( he would want the parkerized one) . He does have his eye on a Browning Riot though. I like the look of that one for him too. Say , what is the factory stock worth off of mine? Should I keep it or sell it? I'll NEVER use it , and if Pete wants to use my ( this) shotgun in the future it will have the adjustable stock on it . I guess the only reason to keep the factory stock would be to just have it in case I ever sell the gun ? It is not the speedfed one..it is just the synthetic black stock.

Wine coolers?!?!? Have you been off the market for a while or something?? Flavored Vodka. Stoli Raspberry or something. That is what the kids are into these days. Ok , I'm off this thread before I get in trouble lol

Good one I like it! If I get the stock Friday by some minor miracle , I'll try it Friday. Mark offered to let me try his too , if we can both manage to get to the BH Friday afternoon. Turns out the stock was sent Fedex Smartpost..which basically means cheaper than Fed Ex ground lol It goes to the post office , THEN to me. So I may have it in time , may not. If I don;t Pete will be the one doing the course. Now I just have to watch he doesn't call the post office and ask them to hold our mail until Monday I also ordered a Hogue youth stock with an 11 3/4 inch pull. That won't get here until next week though. I will have a Knoxx Breachers grip for it , but I don't know how well that product works and with 3 kids I need my palm to be somewhat functioning ( in case they get out of line lol..j/k ..kind of ) . Plus I don't think the course calls for a cruiser style shotgun .

You wear out the rewind button on your remote , that is what happens lol

Thank you everybody! I think we're good now.. And now onto Fed Ex..they have my adjustable stock in Kearny today ( shipped the 10th from the west ) but say it won't be delivered until Saturday. Excuse me , why? I need for it to have an adjustable stock by Saturday for GFH Urban Shotgun. Unless you can take the course doing one handed pumps over your head , firing with the stock going back past your hip while leaning back and yelling "git off ma land".

edited since Caine posted how to get the dowel out How do I get the factory stock off?

Doh! Ok , I'll take the barrel off. How do I take the dowel out?? It doesn't say , just says it is there..when I look into the front of the mag tube ( muzzle end) there is just a flat metal disc there. Directions said not to open the action or pull the trigger without the barrel on ..then it said to open the action to put the barrel on ..then it said ....then it lost me.

Got my new 590A1 today..I would post pics , were it assembled lol Talk about poorly written instructions ( of which I am inept at reading even the best written ) I found a University Of Youtube tutorial on how to get the barrel on ( is it only that screw top on the mag tube that holds it on ? Guess you want to be diligent about keeping that on there fully tightened) ..but , eh , I can't find anything on how to get the factory stock off and it does not touch on that little tidbit in the manual and UYT had nothing on it. I guess I should clean it before using it. And it says in the instructions there is a wooden dowel in the tube for hunting capacity reasons?? Huh??? Oh , help..... As a sidenote , with the factory stock on I can't reach the trigger OR the pump action when it is fully forward . At all , not even close. MMMMMMMM...arms like Yoda I have ..MMMMMM

I think I sent it to them lol