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I’m confused….the non highlighted line between the highlighted ones ……Line 8&9 clearly says 8 “a. The holder of a permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to 9 NJS.2C:58-4 shall not:”

Agreed ….seemingly it’s so convoluted that either people won’t carry for fear of mistakenly becoming a felon because of the nonsensical laws….or the carry and get popped for an honest mistake due to the stupidity of the laws…..either way a win for the overlords

No this is for the front seat… the lower “console”

Here’s a link to the one I have it says ‘06-‘19 ram 1500 in lower console, mine is the 3 digit combo… they didn’t have the 4 digit combo when I got mine. https://www.consolevault.com/Dodge-Ram-Under-Seat-Console-2006--2019_p_30.html#.Y4ys56ROmew

I get that, I just meat the law is asinine and they must be complete idiots to think that it’s better to have people standing by their trunks loading and unloading holstering and unholstering out in plain view ..it’s ridiculous for a multitude of reasons.. from exponentially increasing the risks of nd’s due to people rushing to “not be seen” and making mistakes…to broadcasting which vehicles will have a weapon in them to criminals ….utter nonsensical legislation

Lol ..that’s going to end well

I had one of these in the last truck I had..pretty solid, bolted into existing bolt locations in the lower flip up seat/console ..I pulled it out when I sold the truck ….if anyone needs one for a Dodge Ram let me know

Just throwing a scenario out there, New Jersey concealed carry permit holder, traveling from his home to a destination one of the 1.5 places he would be able to carry …….during his drive as a law abiding citizen. He has it locked up in a case, unloaded separate from the Ammo in the trunk of his car, he’s car jacked at gunpoint at a traffic light unable to defend himself or his vehicle. The criminal now has his car, gun and ammo. listening to the hearings, they’re talking about public safety and protecting people and yada yada yada. The only people these restrictions are protecting or the criminals which I guess would be their revenue source and voter base so obviously I guess thats why they are. So hell-bent on protecting them.

What could go wrong with xxx,xxx people doing that daily multiple times per outing…. I saw first hand the skill level on more than half of the total people in the groups I saw at a jersey club range qualifying….Half seemed like they’d not handled or shot much if at all… half of that half was downright scary.. like “click” turn it sideways muzzle at the guy on the line next to him… a couple shot the ground when drawing 5’ in front of them… a few mags dropped on the first shot…. I could imagine lacking those fundamentals, holstering in a seated position with outer garments to deal with etc … I could foresee reading about people banging off rounds into their seat/themselves .. logically they should all be getting training and practicing safe handling manipulations but in reality I doubt most will… and the more it’s handled it exponentially increases the chances of ad/nd’s ….where as if they are able to get dressed and holster up in the privacy of their home and not touch it until they return that would be the safest for everyone around lol

I thought I read the current nj carry permit prohibits carry in vehicles.. or is that in the proposed/pending bill/law?

I use kydex 2 clip appendix pistol/single&double mag holsters similar to the t1c & Trex side car gen1 at 12oclock… depending on the pants I have on some have longer zippers than others… longer zippers no issues shorter zippers I’ll unclip on the aproach after walking through the door, the left clip and rotate it out of the way… and reset after business is done … if it’s a trough style or no screens and concerned about other looking at your movements.. as suggested the stall is a safe bet to do whatever you need

Nice! Is it an electronic fingerprint place like nj uses?

My buddy just got a letter for Salem County judge Linda Lawhun on 11/16 for a court appearance for his permit on 12/15 … however he is in a similiar situation he is on the other side of the country for work… he said he called to speak with someone about the possibility of a zoom/Skype type of thing… but is waiting to head back from the “person that handles the judges stuff” one of the posts above mentioned signing the permit and it being issued following the interview by the judge. I’ll let him know to ask about that should they agree to a video interview. …. It seems so ridulous that all the other states it’s a mail in and recieve in 1-2 months

Yes

Beside the washer… just carrying a folded up piece of 8.5x11 paper in your pocket for 2 years and not expecting it to be a unreadable mess between friction/sweat/rain/humidity etc is ridiculous on the courts part…. Non everyone carries a briefcase For legal documents everywhere lol

would be curious of how the person answers 21e on the 4473…..being a yes or no question if answered yes based on the wording of it I believe it would be a denial….if answered no…I believe it’s lying on a federal form……not a lawyer…. But this topic came to my attention while reading a recent legislative decision to not pass something in my state’s government that one of them continues to present a bill to try and codify one’s rights to possess a firearm and a medical mj card it keeps getting shot down and the reason being while a card holder can possess by existing state legislation……the reason they gave the purchase of a firearm is a federal process which sees cardholders as not eligible to purchase and the can’t override that….while they can and do allow them to possess it by state law while being a mj card holder 21e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside while not nj here’s a link to the discussion in a bordering democrap run state https://townsquaredelaware.com/medical-marijuana-guns-veto/

Other than at sanctuary city voting places on election night lol

Possibly promoted….it’s Philly after all

That would depend if your mailbox was within 15 feet of the center of the road or not lol

I get that… but I meant from a higher court? Or some entity outside of nj?

Would them choosing to do what THEY want to do as opposed to what the scotus said to do not be grounds for removal? Seems like a violation of oath to me…decisions should be based on law and not personal feelings or what those lining his pockets tell him to do

No surprise

Well if that’s what they to pass then safariland ubl mid or low ride( dependent on your preference), qls, and single straps for all see how they like that lol

…. Sooo what is recommended then… a cloth diaper bag? In that scenario If a vehicle is bein searched…. Everything is opened and or handled.. not just overt gun cases….