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I remember seeing a scan of a letter a while back from the njsp listing critical defense, efmj and I think corbon powr ball as not considered/defined as "hollow points" not sure if it was this site or not....I did a little googling and this was all I could come up with When contacted approximately one year ago LT Schlueter of the New Jersey State Police Ballistics Unit stated in writing that three alternative rounds to a hollow point are identified by the NJSP Ballistics Unit as being lawful for use in NJ: Hornady Critical Defense Federal Expanding Full Metal Jacket Corbon / Glaser PowR Ball LT Schlueter stated that each use loads use a different technology to facilitate expansion and do not have a “hollow” cavity as defined by the NJSP. In the case of the PowR Ball and the Critical Defense, each uses a polymer to fill the “cavity,” and therefore are considered to be Expanding Type bullets falling short of a “hollow point”. While in NJ, be sure to only use magazines of 15 rounds or less capacity

Quote On March 30, 2012 the New Jersey Superior Court, Appellate Division overturned Brian Aitken's conviction of 'Illegal Possession of Firearms' and acquitted him of the 'Illegal Possession of High Capacity Magazines' charge. The conviction of 'Illegal Possession of Hollow-point Ammunition' was upheld on the basis that the exemptions to the charge do not specifically allow for an individual to transport the ammunition from one house to another while moving. Wow I didn't know that either....so what is one supposed to do with any hollow point ammo they may have when moving if they cannot transport to new home?... Leave it with a ribbon for new owners of the home...burry in yard... Call the eod unit in to dispose of?..... Or some usual nj ridiculousness to follow the law verbatim ....on last day of residence of old house transport to range then to new home thereby being "within exemptions" ? Smh

It's a sad state of affairs but you're right now and days you almost need a dash/interior cam/audio rolling 24/7......although I've had friends that have gone to traffic court and tried to show/have photos/video entered as evidence ...only to be told no and found guilty when they were clearly in the right....because they said the judges reasoning was he has to side with the most credible witness which is the officer...not sure if that's always the case...and never having received tickets or gone to traffic court I have no personal exp.

Im not inferring you are/are not telling the truth exactly as it happened and the Leo was/wasn't acting like a crazed maniac.....but beyond all that...I believe what it will boil down to is...in any "venue" home field or not is a sworn Leo's word is going to carry more weight with the judge/court/state.....UNLESS as mentioned the officer in question has a history/file full of misconduct I think you are hosed .... perhaps the prosecutor/rep will discuss the situation with you prior to trial and offer a deal......while it sucks it may be your best shot aside from actually seeking paid legal counsel (I can't imagine the public defenders really are going to buck the system that feeds them) .....not knowing the charges/penalties you are facing...only you can weigh the financial damages and perhaps the lawyer is the cheapest....but good luck in any event

Agree with djg0770 while in all reality it would be harmless....in nj that activity would most likely not end well

My guess is road rage incident based on the comment about banging on window ... But turned out to be a Leo in the other vehicle.....

Wow.... Sounds like there's a hell of a back story to this..lol

I haven't had one done yet... But my understanding is the ffl logs onto some site...enters info clicks send and waits for the proceed/delayed/denied response to be emailed to them... Is my understanding incorrect?

On a related note I travel through Maryland quite often with work....and there are a couple outdoor ranges that some Delaware friends liked to go which I'd stop off at to shoot with them....but with the signing of sb281 they were trying to figure out the effect on them as out of state residents traveling to md ranges/shooting events....they called the offices and left half a dozen messages to no avail..no call backs so I spoke with several msp and town Leos and none seem to be on the same page....got everything from "don't worry about it..nothing's changed for them"... To " tell them to stay out ..they would be arrested and charged with felony possession"...... I spoke with a sgt in the licensing/enforcement office....who agreed that there is no provision/mention of non residents and they would "probably fall under incoming new resident/or grandfather clause and "should" be ok but no guarantee"... Hard to believe there's a more clusterf***k state than nj....lol

Still bs.....most shops aren't going to stand next to the comp hitting refresh on their email page....thereby essentially making it a 2 trip process ...... +1 for jack at tj's ...

Was it email or phone?

Well ....as always in nj any steps made are always backwards...not surprised

i agree with that on extended (career) benefits for people that alot of times never paid into any of it.....but for those that have been contributing members of society for most/all of their life...that have come upon hard times cannot/run out of time/patience trying to meet/jump through the hoops that the career 25 yo healthy ones are taught/helped to work the system and get every single ounce of blood from the system they can...

hard to believe nj allowing people to camp while in posession of weapons

I agree but..then who is providing the benefits to the "career system leeches" that are perfectly healthy and able to work but having grown up on govt assistance ....continue to milk the system?

The simplicity of glocks is a huge advantage in my opinion ..... It's possible to completely disassemble with just a 1/8" punch or "glock tool" simply pushing not driving out pins ...including striker and extractor in 15-30 seconds ....try that with any other brand....less delicate parts/springs/tolerances =less things to break/fail/stick etc...... I'm not a glock nut .. I own many brands ...but respect glocks design attributes

given the "people of facebook" yes...its worse than a reality tv show on there..with the attention whores and drama drama drama...lol everyone parrotting things theyve read and grandstanding to be the biggest liberal alive...(wife is hooked in...im going to have an intervention soon)...lol

i got you...well the 17 is def slimmer than the beretta..but the grip presents a printing issue for me...the 19/23/32 has a shorter grip and is still 3finger grip for me(l-xl glove) heres a pic of my 23(same size as 19) for an idea

you mentioned wanting a medium framed pistol but list the 17 which is the full size...given your list id second specopsscout and suggest the g19 (personal choice would be a gen4)...glocks on most forums get a bad rap as the most vocal opponents are usually mid life crisis new gun owner gear queers looking for phalic symbol firearms with lots of bling for their monthly trip to the range to punch paper..complaining of grip shape/angle/too plain/looks like a block/etc etc...not that unlike women with purses or shoes....but for those that actually use/depend on firearms as tools and dont go into online rants about a smudge on their pistol recognize the minimalist simplicity(just keeps working) of glocks before the drama...none of these comments are directed at anyone on this site...but as an overall theme on the many sites of various states/brands/organazitions i frequent

Wow that's pretty crazy...lol ....anybody notice this story linked at the bottom about the 18 yo girl being shot http://www.thv11.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2658308795001&odyssey=mod%7ctvideo%7carticle In the video they just had to find a pic of the shooter with an "assault" weapon to hype it up....ughhhh

Every time I see that commercial ....I try and imagine a Leo especially nj/njsp taking your phone looking at a picture of an insurance id card when a photo copy/fax was not acceptable...perhaps things have changed but last traffic interaction I had they refused my ins card in a completely transparent slip cover (both sides)...and required me to remove it and hand him the loose ins paper/"card" lol......that was a while ago..perhaps things are different now...

Thanks for all the help guys! I believe I've procured one from the aforementioned member....pending transaction completion

As title suggests...I'm trying to find the pistol in stock and available for immediate cash sale .... I tried the vendor price request and got 2 responses and both would need to order....I'd consider a used f2f this weekend as Monday I will be out of nj for a few weeks unexpectedly and trying to keep from running out of time on this batch of permits.....any leads are greatly appreciated!

haha ..i like that!...i hate those stupid stickers all the helmet haired women plaster on their windows.....i saw one something like my stick family ate yours and was zombies or somthing...lol

Agreed until you hit 9 in a 50 mile stretch...adding 1-1.5hrs to the drive ....