DaddyNick

welcome to the site. im over in marlton Nick

damn....an orchard ...a farm...... im jealous...i gotta hit the lottery. lol

have him go handle mossberg 500, remington 870 and see which one he likes the feel of. let him handle wood and synthetic stock guns. he may have a preference. I wouldnt invest in a slug barrel yet. shoot some clay/skeet with birdshot. where will he deer hunt? how far will be the average shot. if its inside 50 yards i would pattern the gun with buckshot. try #1 buckshot, than 00 or even 000. try the full choke and then the modified choke. all guns pattern differently. usually plated buffered buckshot will be pattern better than unplated unbuffered shot. Nick

Have bow. will travel....

Get the 20ga. as far as shooting clays its up to the shooter...find out what load your gun likes. as for home defense 20ga makes some real nice buckshot loads with #2 and #3 buckshot. inside a house (under 40') i dont think the bad guy will tell the difference between 12 and 20 ga buckshot. lol.

welcome to the site. im over in marlton. Nick

welcome to the site. im over in marlton. Nick

i agree. inside 21' you better know whats beyond your target with buckshot. i hunt with 1buck and it kills out to 45 yards. it may go beyond that but i have my own self imposed range limit. i dont keep a loaded gun the house ( i have 2 children) but i have some high brass BB loads ready nearby. everybody has there own preference. use what you have confidence in. Nick

while I agree about letting deer mature Im also one to enjoy venison VERY MUCH. if im on private land that is managed than I would let that buck walk all day. if im down in the pine barrens during buckweek and the clubs are drivin'...he's coming home with me. If freezer has more for more venison and its end of the season....he's coming home. I hunt to enjoy myself and to enjoy the outdoors. If Im able to harvest an animal than even better. 2 seasons ago one of my boys(he was 5 at the time) wanted me to shoot a deer, he made me promise. lol! spike walked in and only deer i saw for 30 minutes. I harvested that animal and my boy has those antlers in his bedroom. he loves em. The meat provided plenty of meals. it may as well have been a 10 pt buck my son was excited. I could care less what anyone thinks about the headgear(or lack thereof) on an animal I harvest. as long as its legal I see no problem with it. Nick

sorry dont have any details on an actual hunt but most dove places will let you rent shotguns for the day. seems like your deadset on taking those doubles...I would as well! best of luck to ya! sounds like a great wife. show her some pamphlets on pheasant hunts in north dakota!

as far as the ocean is concerned as already said conditions may not be ideal. have a map of the ICW. im in south jersey. Im headin into the pines. Nick

welcome to the site. im in evesham as well. Nick

before you buy one try and shoot someones. its a matter of personal preference in how they feel in your hand. I like the feel of a wide forend such as one on a side by side. they few o/u i handled felt to narrow in my hand. I shot them well I just didnt care for how they felt in my hands. I also care for double triggered guns when it comes to doubles. the cz guns are nice. someone mentioned the stevens 311. good gun and good value. if you get your hands on a stevens 311 the 28" barel versins are choked m/f and the 26" barreled versions are choked ic/m. im lookin for a stevens in 20 or 16 with 26" barrels.

I used blackhorn for the first time last season. I liked it but didnt experiment too much with it. I use 80gr of blackhorn behind my sabot and sighted my omega in at 75 yards.i hunt thick stuiff so shots are usually not far. average has been 35-45 yards. I know a lot of guys use 100-150gr loads but honestly think its a waste. using 240grain all lead bullet and getting an entrance and exit on deer sized game. if the time comes where I may have shots in open fields than I may increase the load and experiment more. Nick

welcome to the site. im next door over in marlton Nick

welcome from another burlington county guy. NIck

I have a strykezone 350 by bowtech. very nice. the horton vision is nice as well and some of the xbows by tenpoint are great. google "wyvern creations" he is the guru on the subject and WILL NOT steer you wrong.

Post it. speak with hunters in question. it may start a great friendship or they may be 2 morons. as already said if these hunters need YOUR 1.5 acres to be successful than they arent sportsman in my book. get to know them personally and if you trust them in the future than work out an agreement. I wouldnt let strangers on my property to hunt, fish, fart, hike, etc.

In the last couple months I have seen them at cheyenne(robbinsville) and at tips(tuckerton).

yeah thats a good price. shoot it see if you like it. I love the 239 in 9mm. the 40 is a little snappy for me. Nick

nice! never saw it. not into the killbill thing.

30lbs of felt recoil vs 2300lb muzzle energy. I'll take my chances behind the gun. They certainly dont seem equal to me. which movie?! maybe I missedit! Im just basing my opinion on inside 20' in a house assuming other good guys are in the house. I do a lot of hunting in the pines in the thick stuff and the load i use is #1 plated buckshot. I've used #4 but always required a follow up shot. Results on deer have been similar when using oo buck or #1 buck. Pattern is a little better for me IN MY GUN when using #1 buck. I limit my shots to 40 yards b/c thats where I have practiced and patterned my gun. Here is an interesting link. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=109958

shotgun slugs will go thru a person like butter. I've shot plenty of deer at 30-100 yards and had pass thrus. 20 feet? that slug aint stoppin anytime soon. at 20 feet 1oz slug, 1 1/8 ofbirdshot(game load), buckshot all will be a big wad at such short range. in a house a shotgun is not my first choice as a home defense weapon(because of its size/length) but if i had to have a shotgun it would be loaded with heavy birdshot load like #2s or BBs. The energy at impact would certainly put him on his back and if managed to get up you can just follow the bloodtrail.

public range on rt 539 in warren grove. . little north of you. not far from Tips Nick

check out the Czs as well as Charles Daly.