jonfoxx

Wow, that explains alot... didn't know... but talk about big brother baby sitting...

Welcome from another South Jerseyian! Maybe we'll meet up one day!

I can believe that! Kentucky is the biggest gun happy state, did you ever see their NICS numbers compared to the rest of the states???? Just amazing... http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/state-totals_1998-2010

Signed. Both my wife and I. Up to 8155. So what actually happens when it reaches 10,000? Does it get presented to government then? If so, to who?

OK, I'll take the pounding for this one, thats OK, but he did say "a non-Christian Arab", thats religious bias, not racist. Texas has a very different way of thinking than us northerners, I was once called a liberal by my Texas boss... thats really funny, they can be quite extreme in their views.

Take it for what its worth from another South Jerseyian... I'm in the same position as you are waiting for my FID and P2P's. I've been to every gun dealer in a resonable driving distance in our area, don't waste your time, just call Paul at A&A, go there and you'll be sold. Unfortunately, he was the 6th place that I visited but if he was the 1st, I would have saved myself alot of time and frustration. As far as ranges, I've been to Bob's (great place but very crowded), Hague's is very nice but over priced, so yeah, I gotta check out SJSC for sure. I've heard no complaints about that place yet and you can take Gun For Hire training there too.

I'd love one of those eventually, but I am starting with one of these.. http://www.amazon.com/Stack-On-IWC-11-In-Wall-Pistol-Cabinet/dp/B002TOKR6C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I335VFMY0RRSUG&colid=28BVKH9EHR5LL

Just my 2 cents.... you can get handgun "in-the-wall safes" with key locks for like $30 from Amazon! You can mount it higher up the wall, out of normal reach of children and cover it with a simple enlarged photo or artwork. Your kids and burglers will never know its there and you'll have just as quick access to it as if it was in a locked retail gun box.

Yeah, the ad is not something you'd probably hear around here, but what makes it racist? Race and religion are two completely different things, and I heard nothing in the ad that would make it "racist" in my opinion. Religious bias and ignorance, maybe, but not racist. Please remember, false labels can have tragic consequences... please be very careful... we're beyond that.

I guess this is another example like mine where these places are quoting laws that don't exist. NJ gun laws are bad enough, please don't make it worse by making up new ones.... Jeese....

Yup! 10 cameras in Gloucester Township. They just raked in $2.5 Million in the first year and a half. And yes, I got dinged $85 while I was rushing to Shoprite after work one day! Damn you Shoprite!!!! That was one expensive baguette!!!

Seems to be alot reference here to policy, not law. They specifically stated that is was against the law in NJ and wanted to know what stores allowed me to handle the guns without an FID, and then said that they are breaking the law. As far as using the FID to establish credibility? Sure, but how about being honest and stating that it is store "policy" and not "the law" in order to establish credibility with the customer...

I'm not going to name the store because they are members here and they can do what they want for all I care, whether its true or not. The good news is that after this bad experience, I immediately came home, called Paul for first time, went right to his store and had the best experience ever. He's now got all of my future business as a result. All things happen for a reason I guess...

OK, I'm looking for some good hard facts here... First of all, I am a noob and currently waiting on my FID and P2P's. I was contacted 2 weeks ago by the police, had the interview, they called my workplace the same day and I was told by the detective that everything is good and I'll have them in less than a month... Awesome! So, I got research to do, right? I started going to every gun retailer in my area, held many different guns, asked alot questions and was even told by one store/range that while I'm waiting for my FID and P2P's, I should come take an intriduction to firearms class and shoot some different types of guns there to help in my purchase decision making. In all, I went to 6 different stores, never a problem. So I decided to go to a new store today and they actually had 3 guns that I'm most interested in (the others did not). When I asked to see them, they asked for my FID card, I explained that I was still waiting for it. They said that it is illegal in NJ for them to show me any firearm without an FID! Is this true? Is everyone else breaking the law by letting me touch and hold the guns without an FID? I was quite pissed off, and thought they were idiots, but then logic set in and I decided that I would hold my judement until I could get the truth... So let the debate begin... Is it illegal? I could not find anyting in the laws that I researched so far, including N.J.A.C. 13:54-6.5

Is this place in Pennsauken open to the public or only to law enforement? It has never come up in my search for local gun stores in this area. This is only about 10 miles away from where I live.

Nascar, how long did it take to get your membership card from the time that you joined? I got my China hat and some other stuff so far, but no membership card yet.

I think this must be common with many organization memberships. I go through the same thing with the USGA and it drives me nuts at times. I had to start keeping track of when I mail in each renewal because I know that they've got me a few times, I'm probably prepaid for couple of years for all I know. Since I just joined the NRA this year, I guess I'll be going through the same thing. At least I now know that I have to keep track of this one too.

Thanks for the tip. I didn't know that I even had H2 but I do, so I've set up the DVR to record the series. Thanks!

Juddster, can you explain more about this AA? Is it a store? Private FFL?

I'm immediately shooting until I feel that my family, my home and myself are safe. If there are investigations and/or legal issues to deal with later, at least I live another day to deal with those issues, unlike the intruder...

I might be a newbie, but if the gun was left in a vehicle unattended, doesn't that violate a CCW being that the weapon would be considered out of the control of the owner and not actually being "carried" at the time of the theft? And yes, first and foremost, I would consider this a theft before I considered it any kind of violation against the gun owner... just something I'm putting out there for open debate...

Do all reference letter inquiry responses need to be notarized, or does it vary from town to town?

Yes, I am keeping track of the process for posting in the forum. One thing I can tell you right away is that I had downloaded the forms from the NJSP site, filled them out and when I took them the police station, they said that they have their own package and that you could NOT use blue ink, which I had done... Aslo, all forms had to be signed in their presence... So, I took their package which was basically the same forms I had download (which looked like they had been photo-copied about 1000 times), filled them out in BLACK ink and took them right back. All was good from there (so far). For my wife, probably a Mossberg 500, for me, I'm leaning toward a Ruger SR9 (with the smaller NJ legal magazine). I guess if a "year" is a possibility here, I'll be getting a lawyer if it goes beyond 90 days, because our home WAS broken into previously, luckily, we were not home at the time.

I've tried to read as much information as possible regarding the NJ gun laws, but I guess I'm in information overload mode and still having a hard time grasping some questions in my mind... So I hope some of you can help me out here. The main thing I'm having trouble with pertains to this... With a FID, what can I buy and where? Specifically, what can I legally buy online and have shipped to me? What has to be shipped to a NJ dealer? Also, what can I buy at an out of state gun show (such as PA) and transport back to NJ? Do the vendors at these shows have the ability to run background checks? Do the guns need to be shipped to a dealer in NJ? If my wife and I purchase separate guns (handguns and rifles), can I legally take hers to the range with me if she's not with me? If I were to get pulled over on the way to or from the range, do I need to show proof of ownship for each gun, or just a FID?

Hello to everyone from Soth Jersey! I'm totally new to guns and everything related. I'm currently in the waiting stage for my FID and first gun purchase, I started the process on January 14th in Gloucester Township. I'm glad I found this forum and look forward to learning so much from all of you!